Serif The Sheriff

Ogres have one rule: the strong survive and the weak die. One Ogre was considered the weakest of his tribe and he was nameless. The tribe was named Grommel and they had a rite of passage to earn their names. The ogre had tried twice without success. If he fails one last time, he would be killed because strength is everything. The rite of passage consists of two parts. First, the initiate must survive the wilderness for three days with nothing but his own strength. If he returns before the time has passed he would be slain or banished. The second part is the initiate must do battle with a Devilsaur (a Devilsaur is a monstrous beast that resembles a dinosaur). The initiate may only bring what he has collected from the wilderness. The unnamed ogre had retreated twice from the Devilsaur. The ogre had one chance to regain his honor and gain his name.
 
    The elder ogre had called a clan meeting on the summer solstice to perform the rite. The elder ogre spoke to the crowd "Who among you is willing to sponsor this whelp?" The unnamed ogre tried to put on a ferocious face to inspire anyone to take up the title of his sponsor but it was clear who it would be. One ogre stepped forward and shouted "I will sponsor him!" The ogre's name was Chu'Vak. "If you sponsor this whelp again, you will share his punishment for failure," the elder replied. "I believe he has more power than any of these pathetic lot," spat Chu'Vak. The crowed was then in uproar.  Cries of rage and insults were thrown at the unnamed ogre but not at Chu'Vak, for he was the strongest of the tribe. The elder then raised his voice "Silence!," he looked at Chu'Vak "Very well. You will sponsor his rite of passage. This meeting is over, return to your posts." The crowd then dispersed and Chu'Vak approached the unnamed ogre. "What have you done. You know I cannot do this," whispered the unnamed ogre. "I would not sponsor you if you were not able to become named," said Chu'Vak, he smiled and gestured to the unnamed ogre "Let us begin."
 
    The unnamed ogre was stripped of his possessions and was granted only a loincloth. He was then cast into the expansive forest wilderness. "What good am I? I can't do anything besides toss logs into Chu'Vak's forge," muttered the unnamed ogre. Chu'Vak was the not only the strongest ogre of the tribe but he was also the blacksmith. He created the weapons used by the entire tribe. The unnamed ogre then proceeded to pick up rocks he found to hunt game. He found a lone stag in a clearing trying to feed on some grass that had managed to grow. The unnamed ogre stood up and threw one of the rocks. The rock hit at the upper neck region of the stag. The rock not only hit with enough force to kill the stag instantly but to actually pierce through the other side and smash into the tree behind it. The unnamed ogre was quite surprised. "I didn't hit it that hard," he thought. He grumbled because now the rest of the herd will have scattered due to the sound. At least the stag was large enough to survive the whole three days unlike the last two attempts of the rite. He gathered his prize and got to work on making two fire pits. One of the pits would be use for warmth and cooking some of the meat. The second pit would be used for smoking and curing the rest of the meat. "I do not understand why this is the hardest part of the rite of passage," thought the unnamed ogre. "I can kill game without problem and find suitable weapons for other ogres to use in the fight. So why do the others complain about the first part of the rite?" The unnamed ogre pondered this question for the rest of the day while happily eating his kill and drinking from the nearby spring.
 
     The next day came and the ogre began to come up with his strategy. "I cannot wield the heavy weapons like other ogres, so how am I going to kill the beast?" His first attempt, he tried to wield a giant club. The club was to heavy for him to swing and dodge the mighty Devilsaur's attacks. His second attempt he used a smaller club but the club could not break through the massive armored scales of the beast. The ogre then began to think on what Chu'Vak told him. When Chu'Vak pulled him aside before the rite he asked the ogre:
 
"Do you remember the day you almost ruined my forge?"
 
"I remember you almost killed me when you broke out in furious rage."
 
"But, do you remember what caused it?"
 
"I was working on two throw-able objects that could obstruct our enemies vision."
 
"Yes, maybe you can try to use that in battle."
  
     The unnamed ogre smiled, because now the answer was obvious. He would use his precision of rock throwing and his ingenuity of creating devices to defeat the Devilsaur. "Thank you master," whispered the ogre. He set out to gather supplies for the upcoming battle. First, he gather five large rocks that were as big as his head. Then he gathered several piles of guano and magnesium rocks. The big rocks he crushed into powder and then it coated in a cement mixture. The result would be a hard shell with a grey rock powder inside. He set the rocks aside to harden before tomorrow. Next, he took the bat guano and some of the wood ashes he was collecting and boiled the mixture. He then took the magnesium rocks and grounded them into a powder. He finally took the mixture he had been making, which is now known as potassium nitrate, and combined it with the magnesium mixture. He used the stag hide he had been saving to wrap the mixture with flint rock into pouches. He then waited until the final day.
 
    The day of the hunt had arrived. He returned to the village with his back pack of rocks. As he approached the entrance the guards laughed because they thought he had been unsuccessful at claiming a prize to defeat his last trial. The laughter was cut short when Chu'Vak arrived. Chu'Vak glared at the guards but said nothing. "Are you ready young one?" Chu'Vak asked shifting his gaze back to the ogre. The ogre nodded and they were on their way to the land of the Devilsaurs. Along the journey the unnamed ogre picked up smooth, round stones he found on the road. When they finally arrived, Chu'Vak sat on a hill, and gestured. "That is the one you will kill," he pointed at the largest Devilsaur. The unnamed ogre was taken aback, the first two rites, Chu'Vak told him to fight the smallest of the pack. But now the unnamed ogre would have to kill the Alpha male? The unnamed ogre regained his composure and nodded. The ogre started down the hill towards the Devilsaur.
 
     The closer he got the more intimidated the unnamed ogre got. But this was the moment he would be able to claim his rightful place in the tribe. He laid his pack on the ground and steeled himself for combat. He laid out the rocks he gathered in row in front of him. First, he started by picking up a smooth stone. He then threw it with all his might at one of the legs of the Devilsaur. The Devilsaur roared with enough volume to shake the ground. The ogre again was surprised on how much damage he had dealt. "It is bleeding from a wound at this distance?" he thought. The Devilsaur then noticed what feeble being had attacked it. The Devilsaur roared once again and began charging the ogre. However, the first step it took caused the beast to stumble, but the mighty beast recovered and started the charge again, albeit slower. The ogre then grabbed his powder stones and threw them into the indents in the plains. The stones exploded and dispersed a smoke of grey that covered the holes. The beast attempted to charge through the smoke but it stepped into the holes causing the beast to fall bringing its head down. The ogre then threw his flash stones. The flash stones hit the top of the head of the beast. The stones exploded causing bright lights to appear right in the front of the beast's eyes. The beast threw back its head in pain the beast now stood still with its head flung back. This was the moment the ogre had been waiting for. He threw all his smooth stones as fast as he could. Each of the deadly projectiles found its mark below the chin where the beast had no armored scales. The projectiles penetrated the soft under tissue of the throat and continued upwards pass the jaw. The beast stopped its painful thrashing because stone had struck the brain of the beast and it fell to the ground dead. The battle had been won. The ogre looked back to his master, who stood up and bellowed a victory cry.
 
      The two ogres came back to the village three days later. The elder was outside to meet them. The elder spoke "Any longer and we would have presumed you two had ran from the challenge." Chu'Vak grunted "Do you think I would run? No, I came back with my pupil's prize: the head of a Devilsaur alpha!" The ogres that had rushed out were astonished. The only person to kill a Devilsaur alpha during the rite was the elder himself. "It took us too long to drag the beast's head back for us to return in the same day!" scoffed Chu'Vak. "Very well, with this impressive display have you come with a proper name for your pupil?" the elder said with an impressed face. "I have. His name shall be Gro'Vak the Stone Thrower and he is the mightiest warrior of the tribe!" yelled Chu'Vak. Gro'Vak was then surrounded by the village who congratulated him and offered him tokens so that he may appreciate this legendary day. Gro'Vak would later become the elder one day for he was the strongest of his tribe.

Undead. Orc. Human. Elf. Long ago, the four races lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the Horde attacked. Only GodDang, master of GO, could stop them, but when the world needed him most, he was nerfed. A hundred maps passed and my brother and I discovered the new GodDang, a War3 player named zebra. And although his bhop skills are great, he has a lot of leveling before he’s ready to save anyone. But I believe zebra can save the world.
 
            Years ago, when I was traveling across Dust2, I was just outside long A, walking towards double doors. As I peeked the doorway, I saw a hellish figure on the other side—a dark green, almost pitch black Orc. In his right hand emerged a grenade, and was flung towards my direction. In an instant, I blinked away; however, the explosion was too great. Three of my friends had perished in the blast, and I was on the brink of death. The filthy black Orc approached my lifeless body, determined to deliver the finishing blow. I closed my eyes, and accepted death. A few seconds passed and I’m still breathing. Still alive. I slowly open eyes, only to be blinded by a striped black-and-white enigmatic player. This person saved my life, and this is the story of how zebra came to be.
 
            I traveled with this majestic awe-inspiring man through many maps: cbble, westwood, office, etc… In return for saving my life, I could only dedicate my own to following zebra in his footsteps. I watched his growth expand with every passing round and every Orc slain. At first, it was subtle; he arbitrarily decided that jumping was the most efficient form of travel. As more time passed, his appearance changed. His body faded into the scenery, unable to be seen and even appeared to look more foe than friend. As his abilities became more proficient, and the number on his MAG-7 exponentially increased, I knew it was a matter of time before we traveled to Italy.
 
            Along the path to Italy, we gathered many comrades: seven Humans, eight Undeads, and nine Night Elves. We all shared a common goal—the annihilation of the Orcish Horde. The night before the invasion, the camp was filled with murmurs. Everyone was mumbling to themselves, and it was impossible to distinguish what they were saying. I was puzzled. If I had to guess, all of them were saying “buy tome” over and over.
 
            When we first reached Italy, the undead were sent in first as infantry. With their agility, they sped towards their spawn fearlessly. In the distance, you could hear the faint explosions and the cries of tens of orcs dying. As soon as the noise died down, we ventured into their den. Similar to how cats have nine lives, Orcs have two lives. We waited until they respawned, and the instant they did, the Night Elves entangled all of them. There must have been at least 28 Orcs entangled at this time. What happened next surprised all of us. Lightning scattered across the skies and struck every Night Elf. Not once, not twice, but twenty-eight times they were struck. None of them survived.
 
            Still entangled, zebra proceeded to ace the Orc team. His bhop skills were great, weaving between each target. They tried shooting at zebra, but bullet wounds healed as soon as they were made, and it was a sight to behold. From the rear, you can hear the cackling of a distinct green-dinosaur. This Orc was particularly filthy and black. In an instant, all the Orcs were resurrected. This was an unprecedented moment in history. Orcs with three lives! All guns were trained on zebra and bullets were shooting. Grenades were flying. Zebra couldn’t heal fast enough. It was as if someone had capped how fast he could regenerate. In a desperation attempt, zebra unleashed his final ability “AFFIRMATIVE”. This was the moment I was waiting for—watching all this time. Zebra’s white body with black stripes changed colors. It was a beautiful, dynamic process that, for a moment, even made the Orcs stop their assault. Then this body became static again. He was killed shortly after.
 
            And so I escaped. I witnessed the legacy of GodDang within zebra. Perhaps if his ultimate wasn’t a complete utter shitbag waste of space, he could finally ace the Orc menace, but that is a different story for a different day. For now, my name is Star, and I will forever remember my savior, zebra.

That has nothing to do with balancing it because the line goes both ways so the NE and the person who gets entangled know where each other are. The only thing that needs changed on that race is the fact that the ult lifts people up into the air which in most cases ruins their accuracy giving the NE a distinct advantage over the person/people they entangle. Everything else on the race is perfectly fine the way it is

NE if would be balanced if entangle didn't point the way to the enemy. 

Sheriffs wet dream

Then you're full of shit.

Yeah that didn't happen.

Inb4sheriffprotectshispreciousnightelf

Ok, so Naix had a couple item restrictions put on it a few days ago (Periapt and Chainmail) and that was all good and fine. But then yesterday those restrictions were removed and I thought maybe it was decided it didn't need them. Today on Vertigo I was able to buy those items, and then the next round they were back to being restricted, but on top of that Claws and LJ are now restricted on it as well. Why? There is no reason Claws should ever be restricted on it and I don't see why LJ has to be restricted as well.

Have you seen the new prices? Its 3500$ for claws now

Uhhhh, Periapt is already restricted, Chainmail got restricted, LJ is restricted, Mask is restricted, why does Ring need to be restricted? That's dumb.
 
Edit: Also, I would rather have a stripped down version of the shopmenu with the prices back to normal than have to deal with this high priced crap. I think most of the server would agree with that but I think we should make a poll for what items to keep in and then if need be, make a poll for prices so we can get something that everyone agrees on.

Uhhhh, Periapt is already restricted, Chainmail got restricted, LJ is restricted, Mask is restricted, why does Ring need to be restricted? That's dumb.
 
Edit: Also, I would rather have a stripped down version of the shopmenu with the prices back to normal than have to deal with this high priced crap. I think most of the server would agree with that but I think we should make a poll for what items to keep in and then if need be, make a poll for prices so we can get something that everyone agrees on.

what are these prices even based off of? did you just pull them out of your ass?

Its funny because I was about to give you the same advice.

Was great until you asked me

The only shopmenu item that needed to be touched was necklace!
 
Skitt please fix
 
 
But honestly if a race has to depend on being able to whore shopmenu, then an engineer should probably take a look at the race and balance it.

Cows are you saying that you agree with Shin that I need to get off forums, or that you were about ready to tell Shin he should get off the forums?

There are definitely a small handful of races I think have to rely on shopmenu items to be able to compete against some of the stronger races which is something that should definitely be fixed, but raising prices of the shop items hurts everyone equally and when it's done because of the stronger players and races then I think it causes some unbalance. Yes, it makes it harder for stronger races and players to shopwhore, but if they do manage to shopwhore, it is way harder for a weaker race or player to do anything about it because it will always be harder for them to do so. From my understanding, it was never really the shopmenu that was the problem, it was the fact that cash is given out every five rounds and the fact that a lot of the better players/better races have the ability to shopwhore that was the problem. That's why I think trying to alter shopmenu was a bad idea because it doesn't necessarily solve the problem, it just makes it harder for most people to accomplish shopwhoring, but for the players like Marzu, Spicy, and Pug, having the full shopmenu even with raised prices still won't be a big deal because they are good enough they can still probably get enough money to shopwhore either way. That's the way that I am looking at this whole thing, but obviously if no one else agrees then it doesn't matter, but I told the server about my idea earlier and almost everyone was pretty receptive to it over the price raise.

Ok, so I hate the new shopmenu because pretty much everything is overpriced now. From the way I see it, the shopmenu is a big help for weaker races to get bonuses they need to beat stronger races (or stronger players).
 
I made this suggestion awhile ago as a fix to better players or better races shopwhoring and I guess it got looked over or it wasn't relevant enough at the time. But my idea was that instead of increasing prices, or further restricting items, put in something similar to the race whoring script. For example if someone has a 2 or 3 kd, then start to limit the amount of items they can buy, that way the players who are really good will begin to be limited on the amount of shopwhoring they can do, whereas the lesser players and races would still be able to buy enough items to give them the edge they need to beat the stronger races/players. 
 
Here is an example of how this could work:
Let's say I am on Naix and I have a 3 kd at 15 kills, then because of that I can only have 5 shopmenu items, then for every 1 or 2 rounds that I maintain that high of a kd after reaching that many kills the number of shopmenu items I can have drops down. This doesn't have to drop all the way down to 0 seeing as most people buy crusaders so it could drop down to 1 or 2 max shop items if need be, but that will make it so it's harder for me to shopwhore and then if I am still doing good without shopwhoring then eventually the race whore script will kick in knocking me off the race.
 
Obviously there are certain situations where that script can be avoided, for example, if I hop onto a knife race and am doing really bad and go 1-10 then I could potentially hop onto a really good race and then go on a mass killing spree and get all shopwhored up without worrying about the script. So for something in that instance, if a player gets too big of a kill streak then just based on their kill streak alone they could get their max items lowered.
 
I don't know how easy or how long it would be to implement something like this, but I personally greatly prefer this to the current way shopmenu/shopwhoring has been deal with.
 
Another thing brought up by Bullet is that part of the item price raise was because it would prevent people from buying all 6 shop items in one round if they are given cash. Little Bunny Fufu had a really good idea on how to fix that as well by putting a limit on how many shopmenu items someone can buy in a round. That way people can't just shopwhore in a single round and will actually have to stay alive and build up to the max items.
 
I think if a shopwhoring script and a item buy limit per round was set then it would be much easier to balance the shopmenu and shopwhoring instead of having to jack up the prices for everything.
 
Skitt since you are the one who made the change to shop (as far as I know) I want to know what you think of this and if this is something you guys would consider doing.

Well I do not like some of the changes and I know other people don't like some of the changes so I thought I would just try and be helpful by proposing an alternative that people could be happy with. I was all for reducing the shopmenu down to just a few basic items like Skitt had it for a little while, but if all the items are going to be back in shop then they shouldn't have been priced the way they were and if all the items are going to be left on the server then there are better ways (I think) of balancing it out.

Remove Necklace completely, add Ice Totem

LIES! NE only has 20% reflect lol. And I never said NE NEEDS to be buffed, just thought it would be nice for a tiny one with the ult getting fixed lol. And Bink, I always get in trouble for comparing current races to their 1.6 or Source versions because I am always told that the current mod is different from the old ones, so what the race was like in previous version is irrelevant lol

Since Night Elf's ult is being worked on so that it will no longer screw up aim and anyone who gets entangled will be able to fight back no problem, would it be possible to give just a slight buff to the evasion after this fix takes place? Just bump it up to 25% or something, because as 20% it has the second lowest evade on server. And when the ult loses most of it's power after getting fixed people will have a much easier time against any NE once they are able to shoot back without their bullets flying everywhere beyond their control. Once the ult gets fixed entangle won't give NE nearly as much of an advantage over the rooted person because even though the NE is shown where the person is, the person also knows where the NE is, and with the fix the person will have just as good accuracy as the NE and with the ult only lasting 2 seconds, that's 2 seconds of freeze time every 20 seconds, and that is less freeze time than most races with bash can get within that time period.

The Master races have never really had any issues to begin with. They're all strong in their own respects. Simplistic in style, yes, but not to the point to which they aren't viable.
*something something make Take the Point a useful skill pls* Is perhaps the only thing ever mentioned about them.
Engineers appreciate the feedback in terms of trying to perfect their works, but you don't have to be forcefully demanding about it. Everyone who puts time into the server does so of their own voilition. No need to sidetrack the original intent of the thread in order to take your feelings about responses to your specific criticisms out on the people who've kept the server alive since its conception.