TheWaffler 117 Posted July 11, 2016 (edited) So I was playing on the Gmod TTT server yesterday evening when I recieved a 60 minute Karma ban. I was the only admin on at the time and I received a message from a friend that after I had been temporarily banned the entire server went berserk. People began RDMing and mic spamming. I am making this thread because I feel that admins and SO's should not be able to be karma banned. Please note that my karma DID NOT plunge down in one day. As you may know, karma tides over and doesn't go up when you're away. I had not been playing the game for a while and came back with about 700 karma. Typically in TTT there are quite a few people doing traitorous acts (Like walking over an unIDed body, or calling a false KOSes, or even killing an innocent). Unfortunately, these people can sometimes be innocent, so killing them for doing a traitorous act lowers your karma. Killing people for traitorous acts led me to being banned for a short amount of time. I believe that karma DOES have some benefits, but quite a few cons. Therefore, I believe that admins and SO's, trusted players, should not be affected by karma. They have a good knowledge of the rules and guidelines for the server, and can be trusted with this immunity. I case they do RDM, they can slay or add an auto slay to themselves. Thank you. Edited July 11, 2016 by TheWaffler 3 DMODW, tazmanianxdude and nothing_but_fail reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krony the brony 1938 Posted July 11, 2016 (edited) Your fault for get karma banned. If you know your karma was low, just let someone kill you rather than risk to get karma banned. If someone T baiting then let someone else kill for you. Edited July 11, 2016 by krony Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 325 Posted July 11, 2016 Really isn't an excuse for being karma banned. If your karma is low enough to wear you might be concerned about getting banned then just let a T kill you or jump in lava. BTW you can always message another admin or SO if something like that happens. 1 TheWaffler reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jiffy 709 Posted July 11, 2016 damn, i got really excited when i saw the title, but it's just gmod stuff 3 TheWaffler, TurtleFrenzy and Jodas reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MisterTurkes 544 Posted July 11, 2016 fuck you guy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Pepper 1491 Posted July 11, 2016 if your karma gets low just take a break for a round or 2. you can easily babysit the server from spectator. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrub 534 Posted July 11, 2016 The sourcebans doesnt have record of any one hour bans withing the past couple of days. welp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dakka 854 Posted July 11, 2016 31 minutes ago, Jiffy said: damn, i got really excited when i saw the title, but it's just gmod stuff hehe xd Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMODW 643 Posted July 11, 2016 admins/so's/staff should not be affected by karma? can we not be affected by slays/ bans too? ily waffle <3 1 Ironic reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZachPL 1754 Posted July 11, 2016 It's really not hard to not be banned by karma, if you are being banned for it and not actively breaking the rules with something like c4 roulette you are doing something wrong. 2 Faded and Ironic reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raaga 20 Posted July 11, 2016 (edited) I don't think that is good a good idea.. If this happenWaffler, it your fault that you get your self karma ban and also why don't you tell your friend get the ID's of the RDMer and like troller and stuff with screenshot. After that he can give you the stuff... and Request ban on sGjoin.net Forums on the RDMer and Staff will take care of it Edited July 11, 2016 by Raaga Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gca 3 Posted July 11, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, DMODW said: admins/so's/staff should not be affected by karma? can we not be affected by slays/ bans too? ily waffle <3 They should be affected by karma, because after all, karma is what the in game damage system is based off of. At 1000 karma, you deal full damage. Once you lose karma, damage reduction steps in. Also going off of @DMODW not wanting to be affected by slays and bans, correct me if I'm wrong, but level 2 clan members have level one admin immunity, but I'll double check that. Member Level 2 Requirements: One year clan tenure. 500 forum post count minimum. 200 hour minimum requirement on our servers. 10 referrals from Level 2 Members and above. No voting, but application with be submitted and approved by staff. Perks: Ability to wear sG | and [L2] tags. Ability to refer Recruits. Basic Admin Admin Immunity Level: 1 Edited July 11, 2016 by gca Level two members have the basic immunity not level four Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyrone 514 Posted July 11, 2016 Are we talking about @Karma here? 1 Rainsurge reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karma 1594 Posted July 11, 2016 14 minutes ago, Tyrone said: Are we talking about @Karma here? LOL It's what I originally thought, but no Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMODW 643 Posted July 11, 2016 2 hours ago, DMODW said: admins/so's/staff should not be affected by karma? can we not be affected by slays/ bans too? ily waffle <3 1 hour ago, gca said: They should be affected by karma, because after all, karma is what the in game damage system is based off of. At 1000 karma, you deal full damage. Once you lose karma, damage reduction steps in. Also going off of @DMODW not wanting to be affected by slays and bans, correct me if I'm wrong, but level 2 clan members have level one admin immunity, but I'll double check that. Member Level 2 Requirements: One year clan tenure. 500 forum post count minimum. 200 hour minimum requirement on our servers. 10 referrals from Level 2 Members and above. No voting, but application with be submitted and approved by staff. Perks: Ability to wear sG | and [L2] tags. Ability to refer Recruits. Basic Admin Admin Immunity Level: 1 we shall train you to understand sarcasm in time young padawan ily gca <3 2 gca and TheWaffler reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ironic 2277 Posted July 11, 2016 If you see your karma getting low, just take a few round break. Just play on your phone or something whenever you aren't having to deal with a report. I've been karma banned a few times, and heck I've even witnessed @centran get karma banned, but it's really not that hard to keep your karma in check. I can see Staff not being affected by karma, and heck maybe even SO's, but Admins (Paidmins), heck no! 1 gca reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMODW 643 Posted July 11, 2016 8 minutes ago, Ironic said: If you see your karma getting low, just take a few round break. Just play on your phone or something whenever you aren't having to deal with a report. I've been karma banned a few times, and heck I've even witnessed @centran get karma banned, but it's really not that hard to keep your karma in check. I can see Staff not being affected by karma, and heck maybe even SO's, but Admins (Paidmins), heck no! to be honest, karma should affect everyone, despite your rank in the server, so's staff and admins alike, to think that one person could not be affected by a part of the game whilst you are is absurd, breeds envy, besides, karma only affects players who think too fast or act too soon. cough meddling waffle cough ily waffle <3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faded 266 Posted July 11, 2016 3 hours ago, ZachPL said: It's really not hard to not be banned by karma, if you are being banned for it and not actively breaking the rules with something like c4 roulette you are doing something wrong. Psssssssshhhh, nothing wrong with setting a 10 min c4 as an inno... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy 2032 Posted July 11, 2016 2 hours ago, gca said: Also going off of @DMODW not wanting to be affected by slays and bans, correct me if I'm wrong, but level 2 clan members have level one admin immunity, but I'll double check that. Level 2 members dont have gmod admin, nor should they (pretty much all levels don't have any gmod admin). Also, I've killed plenty of innos for baiting before, yet I've never been karma banned, git gud. 2 iafunky and Ironic reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cookie eater 965 Posted July 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Sandy said: Level 2 members dont have gmod admin, nor should they (pretty much all levels don't have any gmod admin). Also, I've killed plenty of innos for baiting before, yet I've never been karma banned, git gud. L4's dont have gmod admin I kill all i see t baiting, being stupid , etc... never been karma banned before... Actually, once there was a bug in TTTGO that never increased karma, and i got banned for it. lol 2 Mnkeydude and Sandy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tazmanianxdude 360 Posted July 12, 2016 2 hours ago, Sportsteen583 said: Psssssssshhhh, nothing wrong with setting a 10 min c4 as an inno... @Ironic good times good times xD 1 Ironic reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lemonade 1582 Posted July 12, 2016 I've been banned from having low karma one time, and it was intentional. Its pretty hard to get karma banned normally if you check to see how much karma you have at the start of each round. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ironic 2277 Posted July 12, 2016 1 hour ago, cookie eater said: L4's dont have gmod admin They actually do now. ROFL convinced Zach to let them have admin, so you guys do now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZachPL 1754 Posted July 12, 2016 13 hours ago, Ironic said: They actually do now. ROFL convinced Zach to let them have admin, so you guys do now. Until someone screws up 3 lemonade, xmen and Ironic reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
centran 4457 Posted July 13, 2016 On 7/11/2016 at 5:56 PM, Ironic said: I've been karma banned a few times, and heck I've even witnessed @centran get karma banned It's not my fault 8 people stood around to watch a moron cut the red wire after I told him to cut the blue one! 5 Ironic, gca, iafunky and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites