Face 1910 Posted July 16, 2015 Current thoughts:16 slots2m30s round instead of 3m round30s bomb timer instead of 45sNo cash or less cash (maybe on round 10 and 20? or just 20)If cash isn't infrequent, possibly harder to level... maybe like 20-25% slower.ALL NEW RACES WITH A DIFFERENT BALANCE PERSPECTIVEAn idea of what would be "normal" for this server.[K] Blink Demon (think infected with blink basically...)Demonic Health [spawn] Gain up to 1000 HP (550 first two rounds).Demonic Regeneration [spawn] Gain regeneration up to 15hp/second.Demonic Flames [Attack] Your attacks burn the enemy Knife attacks burn for 5dmg/second for up to 5 seconds.Demonic Blink [Ability] You rip through time, blinking forwards. 15-8 second cooldown.Demonic Rush [ultimate] Gain 30-65% increased movement speed for 3.5 seconds. The race would follow the style of WCS2: Everything is OP so nothing is OP. Everything is insane but everything has a counter. Racestats and complaints would be largely disregarded except maybe to buff things to make them more OP. What I'm looking for in this thread: Thoughts on the bullet points aboveRace ideasThoughts on having a second server at allAny suggestions for the serverThings that are largely non-negotiable:The server will be more hardcoreLeveling will be in some way marginally harder at a minimumEverything will be OPI will not be concerned with balanceThings I'm not looking for in this thread:Suggestions that are not only overpowered but are unavoidable and/or involve no skill, e.g. "chain lightning that hits all enemies for 200 dmg"Any thoughts/suggestions/complaints about the current serverPosts that add nothing to the discussion This is not a promise of a second server. There is no guarantee there will be a second server. I am the driving force behind this idea and if something happens where I am unable to do this, lose motivation, or simply decide we shouldn't do it, it probably will not happen. If this server conflicts too much with the current server it may also simply get removed or put on hold indefinitely. If this happens, at absolute best we would probably be looking at release around the holidays or the start of 2016. If it isn't ready by then it probably would be put off until summer (or indefinitely) because I will be working a ton in spring. Thanks for any input. You all know I appreciate it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skitt 1307 Posted July 16, 2015 booo wc32 suxxx booooo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATG_AGENT 290 Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) wcs2 > wcs1. Server 2 players destroyed server 1 players, even in there own server. BRING BACK THE HATE.Server 2 Best Server Edited July 16, 2015 by ATG_AGENT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaos4499 198 Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) How about that Orcish Lawnmower idea?-75 to 100% chance to respawn-chain lightning knife-movement speed buff-crit nades-Flying ultimate So would a CSGO server 2 be more in line with the CSS server 2 of yore?If so... Edited July 16, 2015 by chaos4499 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Face 1910 Posted July 16, 2015 How about that Orcish Lawnmower idea?-75 to 100% chance to respawn-chain lightning knife-movement speed buff-crit nades-Flying ultimate So would a CSGO server 2 be more in line with the CSS server 2 of yore?This idea was fucking hilarious when we talked about it on the server. If I can balance chainlightning on knife hits to not be stupid it would totally be worth it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HCMikey 248 Posted July 16, 2015 But now war3imba useless Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy 2032 Posted July 16, 2015 booo wc32 suxxx booooo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ordinarygamer96 785 Posted July 16, 2015 If we're gonna make a second server make it a jb server with no balls rules. Otherwise i do have some ideas for this ill flesh out more and then post possibly. 1 2 Eeiu, Gamer4125 and vEntus reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan 207 Posted July 16, 2015 booo wc32 suxxx booooo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rayne 4478 Posted July 16, 2015 WCS2 was always the fun server, if this was to happen Id like to see that tradition carried over, not making it shorter with less cash to make it slightly more 'legit'. And OG if I ever see you hijack a Warcraft thread with an idea for another JB server, I will find you and I will fucking murder you, dead! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbulance 105 Posted July 16, 2015 GTFO with that JB none sense. Server two was always its own cancer. IF I had more faith in its upkeep and didn't fear a relapse I'd totally be down. You already basically carry one server on your shoulder I'd rather you not carry two. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xmen 983 Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) WCS2 was always the fun server, if this was to happen Id like to see that tradition carried over, not making it shorter with less cash to make it slightly more 'legit'.And OG if I ever see you hijack a Warcraft thread with an idea for another JB server, I will find you and I will fucking murder you, dead!Well fun... It was a bit like playing jb with no admin powers you had a chance to just die 15s into the round without being able to do anything Although some of the races were really fun to play. What I'm looking for in this thread:Race ideasI can't remember all the skils but if you want bs races I suggest coding (can be propably found in wcs2 race list by yiyas) AbyssKinda like distortion but the ult was tp and it was endless. Ulti was spammable and left behind smoke trail on ulti use which did dmg, also was immune to headshotsRogue of kartosh the famous knife reace that was total bs and had ult to instant backstab peopleGhostly changelinggun race that had the ult to switch places with a member of the enemy team. Had a popup in chat "You'll be switched in 3 seconds for both playersThe forbiddenKnife grenade race that had a tp that froze you in mid air. Strenght around holy juggernaut tp. You were visible for like .5s after hitting the tp. Then the ult would make you 100% invis and freeze you midair after around 1s. You'd have standing still accuracy and would gain nades. Hitting ult again would free you from the freeze and next activation activated the tp again. Basically blinking aerial nade spamming machine.Shadow fleaKnife race that could use ult/or ability to teleport itself inside another player and knife him from the insideGray man150 levels that gave you +50hp 150%speed +50dmg used something like mac10 and p250Bus driverKinda like grimreaper of war2. Had increased speed and hp, very strong mirror dmg, could leave many wards.Bloodghast vampire spirit Was a late addition a bit like ghost in server 1. Used m4a1-s had like 70-80% invis. On death banished the person who killed you for several seconds. 100% respawn for 1 time. Edit: The ambition is strong with this one.. I dun wanna lose you to server 2 Edited July 16, 2015 by xmen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy 2032 Posted July 16, 2015 d gay man was a 1-2 shot mac10 race forgot alucard, shit was mad op oh and zeus huge radius chain lightening with low grav/speed? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
camelFun 1435 Posted July 16, 2015 I love the idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matty 889 Posted July 16, 2015 Gray man150 levels that gave you +50hp 150%speed +50dmg used something like mac10 and p250 Please do so I can whore Gray man like the old days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy 2032 Posted July 16, 2015 Please do so I can whore Gray man like the old days. who da fuck are deez SOs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Face 1910 Posted July 16, 2015 GTFO with that JB none sense. Server two was always its own cancer. IF I had more faith in its upkeep and didn't fear a relapse I'd totally be down. You already basically carry one server on your shoulder I'd rather you not carry two.Good thing is if I work on plugins I could just put them on both servers. It basically means each server would get races at 1/2 the current frequency which isn't really a problem. Also I couldn't play both at once. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
centran 4457 Posted July 16, 2015 I will only play this if you add the gnat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skitt 1307 Posted July 16, 2015 there will be a race called Human Hero. it will spawn with a silenced m4 with unlimited ammo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Face 1910 Posted July 16, 2015 I wanted an OP marine skitt, we are on the same page Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
driz 2626 Posted July 16, 2015 If we're gonna make a second server make it a jb server with no balls rules. Otherwise i do have some ideas for this ill flesh out more and then post possibly. We will be making a second jb server... Sent from my oneplus one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Face 1910 Posted July 16, 2015 WCS2 was always the fun server, if this was to happen Id like to see that tradition carried over, not making it shorter with less cash to make it slightly more 'legit'. And OG if I ever see you hijack a Warcraft thread with an idea for another JB server, I will find you and I will fucking murder you, dead!What if cash/xp was the same but most races max around 50-60? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PandaRanger 0 Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) Should the race whoring rules be the same on server 2? Edited July 16, 2015 by PandaRanger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Face 1910 Posted July 16, 2015 Are the race whoring rules going to be the same on server 2?I hadn't considered that. I would be curious how it was on WCS2 but my natural inclination is to say no race whore script. It may still be there. I don't know yet.At work today while waiting on some things I hammered out some race ideas:4 Starter RacesHuman Hero: M4A1-S OnlyLock and Load [Passive] Spawn with an M4A1-S that has infinite ammo and deals 1-7 bonus damage.Combat Vest [Passive] Damage taken is reduced by 1-7.Life Drain [Passive] Gain 2-20% of damage dealth as life.Health Pack [Passive] Gain 4-40 HP.Combat Drugs [ultimate] Increase speed by 0.5-5% and attack speed by 1-10%. [Ability] Decrease speed and attack speed. Maximum +25% speed and +50% attack speed.Orcish WarriorCritical Strike [Passive] 2.5-25% chance to critically hit for +150% damage.Crit Nades [Passive] Spawn with 1-2 grenades that deal a random about of critical damage between 3-100 up to 30-200 at max.Knife Lightning [Passive] Gain 2.5-25% additional chance to crit with your knife. If you critically strike with your knife, you cast chain lightning.Respawn [Passive] 10-100% Chance to respawn. After respawning, each subsequent respawn chance is reduced by 25%.The UndeadLeeching [Passive] Leech 2.5-25% of damage dealt up to 175 HP.Thick Skin [Passive] Gain 2-20% damage reduction.Rotting Skin [Passive] Damage taken is reduced by 1-5.Suicide Bomb [Passive] Per Round: Each kill gives you +15-30% chance to explode on death for massive damage.Elvish KeeperEvasion [Passive] Gain 2.5-25% chance to evade.Regeneration [Passive] Gain 0.5-2.0 HP per second.Shadowmeld [Passive] Standing still makes you go 30-70% invisible.Poison Touch [Passive] Poison enemies on hit for 1-10% of damage dealt every second for 2 seconds.Trueshot [Passive] 4-40% chance to ignore enemies evasion.Other race ideas I came up with, some are from player suggestions for War3 in the past or my own old ideas:No Name Yet: AWP Only100% chance to ignore evasion+100% damage if you have not fired in the last 3 secondsLong jump55% invisDeagle with +damage (maybe +10 or 15?) and extra clip (15 bullets? 20?)Fire Beast40% chance to burn on attack for 80% of damage dealt over 3 secondsSpawn with 2 molotovs that slow enemies by 50% and have a 10% chance to stun for 0.5 seconds+30% Speed+Ability is an AOE that burns for decent damage+ult catches the player on fire (simply for effect) and gives 8 hp/sec for 5 secondsIce MaidenAllys get ammo regen (maybe 1/sec), Ice Maiden gets better ammo regen (0.6/sec?)30% bash chanceSlow aura (40%?)-8 Damage taken per hitFrost Nova (I'm thinking full blow stun, no casting or shooting, maybe for 1.5 seconds)Spider ManGun race with golden tail hook, maybe on a 1 sec CD+50 HPSome other stuff I don't know yetDaygon, Son of the Twin Dragonswww.joinsg.net/topic/65380-daygon-son-of-the-twin-dragons/DragoonDamage is taken from armor before HPIf not attacked for 5 seconds, armor regenerates very quickly to max+8 dmg/hit+20% move speedIf you have armor, take 75% less magic damageRoach: Nova onlyZergling burrow + burrowed movement (probably faster movement)Poison on hit (per pellet boys)Armor shredding (per pellet boys)20% damage reductionPhase Beast: Knife onlyCharge based blink (like distortion) except with more blinks and a short blink distance, can blink through walls2 second bash on knife hit40% DMG Reduc+Ult to heal to your HP you were at 5 seconds agoMaybe another skillDevilish FiendHeal for 20% of damage taken 1 second after you get hitHeal for 20% of damage dealtGain 1.5 HP/Sec for each player within 800 units100% Chance to respawn, 30% chance after first respawn+Ult to gain 150 HP for 5 secondsArcane Nullifier80% Magic damage resistance40% Damage reduction50% Chance to block regen/lifesteal on hit30% Chance to silence on hit30% Chance to cripple on hitDivine Paladin+100% Damage to UndeadShoot allies to heal them for 60% of damage (for reference, holy paladin is ~15%)+100 HPEnemies you damage show on radar for 15 seconds30% Chance to block, reducing damage taken by 50%Tyrannus of Light: Knife OnlySpawn a flash bang every 10 secondsFlashbang ImmunityTeleport to the location of your flashbang when it explodes70% Invisibility+50% SpeedHeal for 25 every time you throw a flashbangSteve the Conquerer: AK47 onlyAmmo regen (like master of war)Spawns with nades (all have special effects, maybe slowing HE grenades, flashbangs that hurt enemies, smoke that heals/hurts)AK47 with +25% damage+15 HP on kill+ult gives +30% speed and damage reduction for 5 secondsNo Name Yet (old ATTG suggestion)100 skill points(50 pts) +1-50% speed(50 pts) +1-50% attack speed(50 pts) +0.5-25% evasion(50 pts) +0.8-40% dmg reduc(50 pts) +0.6-30% life steal(50 pts) +0.6-30% bash chance(50 pts) +0.6-30% bonus damage(50 pts) +1-50 HP(25 pts) +4-100% chance to ignore evasion(25 pts) +4-100% chance to ignore disarm@x-men I like ghostly changling, forbidden, maybe grayman, maybe bus driverI will never have rogue of kartosh on either server (no skill involved in teleporting behind players) or the flea race (teleporting inside players)You even notice I don't have chain lightning on orc. I don't want no-skill stuff or anything that is spammable like chain lightning is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ordinarygamer96 785 Posted July 16, 2015 We will be making a second jb server... Sent from my oneplus onePlz tell me with no balls rule. It's a dream I know Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites