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  1. Posted · Edited by Travesty
    lol [spoiler] not [spoilers]

    1 hour ago, Dakota said:

    How many die tho

     

     

    RIP Tony Stark who ends up fucking up the Avengers plan and timeline and becomes the main antagonist when they try to build the Infinity Gauntlet.


    Apparently Capt America dies too.

     

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  4. Posted · Edited by Travesty

    3 hours ago, Don Juan said:

    Should have spoken out when it mattered, this information, true or false changes nothing and will be forgotten of in a month.

     

    I take it you didn't watch the documentary.

     

     

     

    It really does change things though. For future parents knowing the signs of a pedophile grooming their family and their kids. The signs that fame can warp your rational thought. What exactly is a romantic relationship? etc. etc. It's moreso information about one of the most prolific child predators so that people can learn from it.

     

    It might not change things specifically to getting Michael Jackson charged, but it will certainly change things for the future.

     

    I'd be willing to bet more people come forward. You already seem people coming out about their own past abuse in many of the threads talking about the documentary. Pretty powerful stuff.

     

     

     

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    When the police raided MJ’s home in 1993 they found, locked in his bedroom file cabinet, two naked photographs of young boys. One was of a boy named Jonathan Spence that MJ used to pal around with and have sleep overs with.

     

    Page two: https://www.mjfacts.com/resources/011805pltreqaseemd.pdf

     

    Also found locked in his bedroom file cabinet were two picture books of mostly naked boys called Boys Will Be Boys and The Boy. These books were created by Martin Swithinbank and Ronald Drew. Swithinbank and Drew are both convicted child molesters. Swithinbank was actually a card-carrying member of NAMBLA—the North American Man/Boy Love Association. One of the books was also personally inscribed by MJ in the cover (since MJ fans love to claim he didn’t even know he had the books in his possession).

     

    One other copy pasted talking point you’ll see from MJ cultists is that the FBI investigated him for ten years and cleared him. This is not true. The FBI never really investigated MJ at all. He was investigated by local enforcement, who did occasionally enlist the FBI for specific tasks, interviews, whatever. But he was never under “FBI Investigation” per se, and certainly not thoroughly and for ten years straight. Which is a shame. Maybe if he had been he would be alive and in prison right now where he belongs.


     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    The backlash you get from potentially believing what was said in a dOcUmEnTaRy is pretty crazy in and of itself:

     

     

     

     

     

    In a lighter note:

     

     

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  5. Posted · Edited by Travesty

    Making this thread for when all you guys finally watch it. I saw it last night.

    Two parts, each two hours long.

     

     

     

    Do you believe the accusers?
     

     

    from reddit:

     

     

    Acknowledging the truth about Michael Jackson's life means acknowledging some EXTREMELY uncomfortable truths about childhood sexuality, human relationships, and society.

    Considering the implications of the following scenario (which I believe is what mostly likely happened) is so worldview-shattering and psychologically fraught for many, that it's understandable people fiercely reject doing so in a reflex of self-preservation:

     

    Michael Jackson had a series of romantic and sexual relationships (potentially even monogamously) with very young boys his entire life, always starting when they were pre-pubescent. He usually had one "favorite" boy at a time with whom he would share his bed, have sex, and travel the world. Two prerequisites for these relationships to turn sexual were naive, starstruck, and/or willfully ignorant family in denial, and a mutual attraction between the boy and Michael. Many of his boys were already obsessed with him and dressed up and danced like him before they even met. Michael predatory-ily cultivated their innocent attraction into an unhealthy romantic attraction. In many instances, kids he viewed as potential romantic partners (and groomed for that purpose) didn't meet both criteria so he was never sexual with them, like Corey Feldman, perhaps Macaulay Culkin, and most likely many others.

     

    His sexual relationships typically ended after months or years, often when the boys got older, leaving them with varying degrees of heartbreak and permanent psychological damage. The two accusers in the documentary were obviously both in love with and permanently damaged by MJ in ways they are still struggling to come to terms with.

     

    His relationship with Omer Bhatti was the longest lasting, from when the Omer was 8 until his mid 20s when MJ died. For all practical purposes, Omar was MJ's lover, husband, and surrogate father/brother to his children during the last years of his life. Omar was in the front row at Michael's funeral as the only non-family member and continues to spend every Christmas with the Jackson family. I'm pretry sure he'll take their secret to his grave.

     

    Many of these children probably believed they were in love with Michael, and he probably believed the same and used that belief to justify the sexual abuse he inflicted. It also explains why only some of his relationships turned sexual. However, accepting that means accepting the premise that not all child-abusing pedophiles have no self control and will abuse any child if given the opportunity (which is, of course, difficult for many people.) The love he shared with children was predatory, destructive, and fucked up in so many ways, but it was definitely something tangible that existed. Most distressingly, all of these boys' parents and most of society allowed it to happen. Many, many people were complicit in this abuse and profited from it in different ways.

     

    Michael Jackson was probably the most famous entertainer to ever live, spreading love and joy to billions of people around the world for most of his life and still continuing a decade after his death. He also personally enriched the lives of hundreds (thousands?) of children with his wealth, friendship, love and companionship. He was also a pedophile that used his wealth, fame, and influence to systematically groom and rape children, destroying minds, lives, and families in the process, all while justifying it to himself as a kind of love.

    He was all of those things. Acknowledging them as true, together, really fucking sucks, and may even be impossible. But the world is equally complex, chaotic and evil as it is simple, ordered and good.

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  8. Posted · Edited by Travesty

    THE VOTES ARE IN.

     

    The judges awarded BAD TIMES AT THE EL ROYALE as our movie pick for the sG | Oscar Movie Night!

     

    We will pick a date in February before the Oscars for us to watch!

     

    What date would you like best?

    • Saturday, February 16th
    • Saturday, February 23rd

     

     

     

     

     

    List of Movies:

    Ready Player One - 8 points

    BlacKkKlansman - 7 points

    Incredibles 2 - 6 points

    Mission Impossible: Fallout - 3 points

    Black Panther - 8 points

    Hereditary - 3 points

    First Man

    A Quiet Place - 7 points

    Spider-Man: Into The Spider Verse - 10 points

    Bad Times at the El Royale - 13 points

    Dragon Ball: Broly - 3 points

    MANDY - 5 points

    Halloween - 3 points

    The Mule - 7 points

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    1 minute ago, chaos4499 said:

    With so many options, will there be a way to vote for 2-3 or will this be a standard poll.

     

    Yeah I think we'll do a ranking system 1.  2.  3. with Top spot getting 3 points, 2nd getting 2pts and 3rd getting only 1pt.

     

    REMEMBER THE PEOPLE THAT NOMINATED ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO WILL VOTE ON THE MOVIE WE WILL WATCH TOGETHER BEFORE THE OSCARS.

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  17. Posted · Edited by Travesty

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    sG | OSCARS 2018/2019

    NOMINATIONS

     

    Please choose one film you saw that was released in 2018 that you think should win Best Picture at the Oscars.

    • It can be any movie of your choice as long as the IMDB says it was released in 2018.
    • Doesn't have to be Oscar nominated

     

    I will then make a poll with our movie selections and then the people who nominated a movie will choose the movie we will watch.

     

    We will likely watch the movie the night before the Oscars (Saturday, February 23rd) or do a Sunday Matinee on the day of the Oscars (Sunday, Feb 24th).

     

     

     

    NOMINATIONS CLOSE THIS FRIDAY, JANUARY 25th at 10:30 A.M.

     

    NOMINATE YOUR BEST PICTURE NOW.

     

    Note: You can nominate the same movie if someone already mentioned it. You may only nominate once.
    If you don't nominate a movie, your vote will not be counted towards Best Picture.

     

     

     

  18. Posted · Edited by Travesty

    As you might have noticed by my avatar, The Big Lebowski has solidified itself as my #1 movie. It is so hard to pick a favourite but each time I watch it, it gets better and better.

     

    Favorite scenes are anytime The Dude, Walter and Donny get together:

     

     

     

    I didn't understand this movie the first time I watched it -- I didn't even like it. There is so much going on with all the characters, all the scenes and in the large amount of dialogue that makes it fun to rewatch. It would appear that The Dude, Walter and Donny are all just improving lines but the script was written this exact way and their timing is incredible. They make it seem so natural. It feels like so much is going on in this movie but really the plot is just The Dude trying to get back his rug (that tied the room together). Amazing movie.

     

    HIGHLY. RECOMMENDED.

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