Possible new janitor project idea

[Ordinarygamer96 785]

So lately it seems like we're inundated with more autism than usual from random and annoying regulars so I thought of an idea. Why dosent sG allow the clan itself, meaning every member, to every three months nominate people for a janitors project which we itself vote on. It'd require many votes to up someone so it would only target the true tumors. Don't. Expect this to pass mostly looking for someone to take my idea and make it better. I just think it makes sense as it gives us a better say who we want around and as it stands there's no way to eliminate the cancer from forums themselves. The up would lead to perhaps penalties such as post limits or restriction from posting at all or in certain forums

[Count 500]

If people voted more carefully we wouldn't need this

[Ordinarygamer96 785]

If people voted more carefully we wouldn't need this

This isn't for members this is for people who just come to the forums to fuck with us

[Puff 68]

Best method of Janitorial exiling: Staff member sneakily bans said person. Quickest, most efficient way.

[Mark from Facebook 1285]

This is how the system works

Every member vote counts as 1

staff votes count as 3

SO counts as 2

 

>Bribe staff with pizza money to vote who you want out

>JP everyone

>Take over tyranny from eddy.

>profit

[Count 500]

This isn't for members this is for people who just come to the forums to fuck with us

Then who the fuck am I going to neg rep?

[BLiNDBoi 930]

I think you guys are not understanding the current JP system. It is not aimed at "JB regulars" to whom are not sG members. JP majority of the time will never ban anyone but rather remove someone's clan status.

 

If you wish to rid the "autism" or "cancer" take up the job as an admin and try to do it yourself and make them SOs look bad.

Edited April 15, 2015 by BLiNDBoi

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I think you guys are not understanding the current JP system. It is not aimed at "JB regulars" to whom are not sG members. JP majority of the time will never ban anyone but rather remove someone's clan status.

 

If you wish to rid the "autism" or "cancer" take up the job as an admin and try to do it yourself and make them SOs look bad.

This, JP is meant to remove a toxic member who, for example, gives sG a bad name and we no longer wish to have represent our clan. They aren't banned from the server, just removed from membership with the ability to re-apply.

[Ordinarygamer96 785]

People don't understand my point here. I'm calling for a system to stop future pablos

[Joscal 339]

I think you guys are not understanding the current JP system. It is not aimed at "JB regulars" to whom are not sG members. JP majority of the time will never ban anyone but rather remove someone's clan status.

 

If you wish to rid the "autism" or "cancer" take up the job as an admin and try to do it yourself and make them SOs look bad.

I don't need SO for that.

 

 

 

not srs, some of them are nice

 

 

People don't understand my point here. I'm calling for a system to stop future pablos

 

 

I looked for every way to report that annoyance when he was on, but generally he would just skirt under the radar of being a complete fuck up.

Edited April 15, 2015 by Joscal

[Ordinarygamer96 785]

I don't need SO for that.

not srs, some of them are nice

I looked for every way to report that annoyance when he was on, but generally he would just skirt under the radar of being a complete fuck up.

Thats why I want a jp system for non members. Because there is trolls that avoid fucking up too bad like pablo did

Edited April 15, 2015 by Ordinarygamer96

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Thats why I want a jp system for non members. Because there is trolls that avoid fucking up too bad like pablo did

The whole purpose of jp is to remove the clan membership of current members that only hurt the clan image.

What you're thinking of is a voteban system which I personally feel would be exploited and/or create unnecessary drama. If someone is outright being a troll and is breaking rules, ban them. Simple as that

[Joscal 339]

The whole purpose of jp is to remove the clan membership of current members that only hurt the clan image.

What you're thinking of is a voteban system which I personally feel would be exploited and/or create unnecessary drama. If someone is outright being a troll and is breaking rules, ban them. Simple as that

http://sb.joinsg.net/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_1:0:84160692&Submit

 

It took far too many imo, obviously some of them are minute bans, but it should have been clear from the beginning where this needed to head.

 

That being said, I do not agree with a JP for this. There should be some ability(there is obviously but it does not seem to be excercised.) to hand bans longer than a week for trolling.

Edited April 15, 2015 by Joscal

[Ordinarygamer96 785]

The whole purpose of jp is to remove the clan membership of current members that only hurt the clan image.

What you're thinking of is a voteban system which I personally feel would be exploited and/or create unnecessary drama. If someone is outright being a troll and is breaking rules, ban them. Simple as that

Currently under the system people like pablo can troll with no punishment if if they're smart. Pablo would still be here if he didn't go retard and post child porn. The community deserves a way to police itself. We could require nominations to have a certain amount of evidence of toxicity that fit certain criteria etc

[Velo 2077]

People don't understand my point here. I'm calling for a system to stop future pablos

There were many 'pablos' before pablo, (fire.exe, matthai, applesauce etc.) and there will be many more 'pablos' in the future. At this point it's a fact of life. They will go away eventually. Just wait for them to do something really stupid.

Edited April 15, 2015 by Velo

[Eddy 3887]

This was a legit suggestion and all of you guys spamming stupid nominations should be infracted and staff/SO's should know better...

 

As far as your suggestion goes, right now the answer would be no.

 

As everyone can see the community can hardly handle voting in people into the clan, I don't think it can handle a vote to ban people from the community, plus I just see this being yet another community circle jerk (e.g recruitment voting).

[camelFun 1435]

This was a legit suggestion and all of you guys spamming stupid nominations should be infracted and staff/SO's should know better...

 

As far as your suggestion goes, right now the answer would be no.

 

As everyone can see the community can hardly handle voting in people into the clan, I don't think it can handle a vote to ban people from the community, plus I just see this being yet another community circle jerk (e.g recruitment voting).

 

He didn't explain himself well at all. What do you expect? The way JP works now is perfectly fine seeing as it's gone pretty well as it is. Bias has been dealt with by abstinence and all staff have handled JP nominees really seriously. We discuss the standout members all the time. I guess saying this would have been better, but it's another suggestion thread where the OP has little information already on the subject and mentions and writes on a basis of assumed execution.

[Eddy 3887]

He didn't explain himself well at all. What do you expect? The way JP works now is perfectly fine seeing as it's gone pretty well as it is. Bias has been dealt with by abstinence and all staff have handled JP nominees really seriously. We discuss the standout members all the time. I guess saying this would have been better, but it's another suggestion thread where the OP has little information already on the subject and mentions and writes on a basis of assumed execution.

He fucked up by calling it JP, just forget the fact he called it that.

 

He suggested a way for the community to be involved in a vote, this vote would determine whether or not someone deserved to be banned from the community.

 

This is an actual idea that he is suggesting and his thread just ended up being spammed by people, whether you agree or disagree with the way he went about suggesting something is besides the fact. Spam posts are for the spam sections, not someone's idea thread.

[camelFun 1435]

He fucked up by calling it JP, just forget the fact he called it that.

 

He suggested a way for the community to be involved in a vote, this vote would determine whether or not someone deserved to be banned from the community.

 

This is an actual idea that he is suggesting and his thread just ended up being spammed by people, whether you agree or disagree with the way he went about suggesting something is besides the fact. Spam posts are for the spam sections, not someone's idea thread.

 

Either way, I agree with your argument about how it'll just be a huge circlejerk like recruitment voting already is. I think for the reason behind this idea to affect someone's continued presence on our servers, we'll need to revise what is considered "severe trolling" and see if we can't just exile persistent annoyances. I don't think it's necessary, though. 

[Ordinarygamer96 785]

Here's a better explanation of my proposed system and why I want it. I gave the example of pablo but there's many others. I believe that once someone, whether they are a member or just someone who came to the forums, shows off a certain amount of toxicity or plain autism we should be allowed to deal with it because rn we don't have a real system in place unless they go overboard. Every 3 months we nominate people like that to be put to vote. To put it to vote they need a certain amount of offenses on a point scale. Let's say you need 15 points in that 3 month span resetting every 6 months.

Ban one day or over -3 points.

Misuse or trolling in complaint department-2

Harassment in servers(that is documented and punished in complaint department beforehand)- 1 point

Spam or autism threads outside spam that go too far (were all autistic)-2 points

There can be more but they are examples

If they have 15 points or over at the end of the 3 month period we put it to vote. 40 or more votes using the same system as recruitment for tallying gets you banned for a month from servers and a lock placed on your forum account from posting for a certain period. If you come back and it happens again you're perma banned.

This is my idea take of it what you wish

[Fugner 1019]

Here's a better explanation of my proposed system and why I want it. I gave the example of pablo but there's many others. I believe that once someone, whether they are a member or just someone who came to the forums, shows off a certain amount of toxicity or plain autism we should be allowed to deal with it because rn we don't have a real system in place unless they go overboard. Every 3 months we nominate people like that to be put to vote. To put it to vote they need a certain amount of offenses on a point scale. Let's say you need 15 points in that 3 month span resetting every 6 months.

Ban one day or over -3 points.

Misuse or trolling in complaint department-2

Harassment in servers(that is documented and punished in complaint department beforehand)- 1 point

Spam or autism threads outside spam that go too far (were all autistic)-2 points

There can be more but they are examples

If they have 15 points or over at the end of the 3 month period we put it to vote. 40 or more votes using the same system as recruitment for tallying gets you banned for a month from servers and a lock placed on your forum account from posting for a certain period. If you come back and it happens again you're perma banned.

This is my idea take of it what you wish

Correct me if I am wrong. But are you suggesting this as a sort of jp equivalent but for people who are not in the clan that constantly break rules? If so I don't really see a need for something like this since we already have an infraction system that punishes anyone including non members for breaking rules. Although I wouldn't be against improving the infraction system.

Edited April 16, 2015 by Fugner

[cookie eater 965]

I think a harsher ban system for trolls would be a good thing. Ban people who are here just to troll the commubity. Could be members could be random users

[Ordinarygamer96 785]

Correct me if I am wrong. But are you suggesting this as a sort of jp equivalent but for people who are not in the clan that constantly break rules? If so I don't really see a need for something like this since we already have an infraction system that punishes anyone including non members for breaking rules. Although I wouldn't be against improving the infraction system.

See our system dosent work with people like pablo we only got him because of the child porn.

I know people's main worry is this would be abused but that's why there's a point system. If you get that many bad Points you legitimately deserve to face some sort of trial

Edited April 16, 2015 by Ordinarygamer96

[Fugner 1019]

See our system dosent work with people like pablo we only got him because of the child porn.

I know people's main worry is this would be abused but that's why there's a point system. If you get that many bad Points you legitimately deserve to face some sort of trial

I feel another point system that shows all the bad things you do sounds exactly like infraction points and would just confuse people. A tougher infraction system would ban people if they had accumulated enough infraction points and deserved a ban. Adding a community vote to that system would introduce nothing but bias. If the community votes for recruitment are as bad as they are, how do you figure the community can vote maturely on someone being banned? You would end up with shit like "missed an awp shot down mid in a comp game, kid needs to be banned"

[Ordinarygamer96 785]

I feel another point system that shows all the bad things you do sounds exactly like infraction points and would just confuse people. A tougher infraction system would ban people if they had accumulated enough infraction points and deserved a ban. Adding a community vote to that system would introduce nothing but bias. If the community votes for recruitment are as bad as they are, how do you figure the community can vote maturely on someone being banned? You would end up with shit like "missed an awp shot down mid in a comp game, kid needs to be banned"

Unless you can make an infraction system guaranteed to get rid of pablos it's useless in this situation. I think the community can handle this with enough safeguards. We. The members. Are the community not some random that hops on to post stupid gifs and fake rap songs (we know who I'm talking about). There's pure cancer that last way too long around here like the pablos. I don't see how we can allow people who constantly skirt the edge and are hated by the entire community to stay around with admin no less. Yet it's happened

Edited April 16, 2015 by Ordinarygamer96