Requested Race-Specific Rule Changes

[Name 2616]

Two race-specific rules I believe would improve the server.

 

1. Unholy Paladins may not place their ultimate on a planted bomb.

 

2. Ahmed the Jihadist may not activate his ult in the first 15 seconds of the round on crackhouse.

 

The second one goes back to crackhouse being a terrible map rather than a problem with Ahmed, but if it's going to stay that rule could alleviate one huge annoyance.

[DerpyPwny 168]

Only when cash is back is when these changes shall be introduced

Edited October 8, 2014 by DerpyPwny

[BLiNDBoi 930]

#RemoveCrackhouse

[thorgot 2420]

2 is a bug, like most races his ultimate should have a cooldown. I'm already making a fix to him so I'll stick a 20 second cooldown in there too.

 

For 1, I'd much, much rather add some code to prevent certain ultimates from being activated near a planted bomb. This would be simple enough (store where bomb is planted, check distance to bomb when using specific ultimates). Are there any other ultimates you can think of that shouldn't be used near a planted bomb? Something that just does some damage for a few seconds isn't enough to be blocked. A molotov does a lot of damage over 7 seconds, for example. Unholy Feast at 12 seconds/certain death may in fact be the only exception here.

 

In general, I would much, much rather come up with code solutions than have race or map specific rules. Players should not have to know an arcane list of rules specific to each race before they play them. The few map and race rules that are in the motd are there because there was no reasonable code solution for them.

[Name 2616]

A lot of no votes and no real explanation as to why.

 

If we can make a code solution, all the better. Unholy Paladin's ult is the only one that springs to mind as making it absolutely impossible to defuse. Shadow Hunter wards if stacked on the bomb will deal a ton of damage, 16/sec, meaning even with a defuse kit you're going to take at least 80 damage from them if they're right on top of the bomb. I'll leave it up to you whether that constitutes needing to be restricted or not.

[xmen 983]

how bout chronos ult?

[thorgot 2420]

how bout chronos ult?

Only lasts 4.5 seconds, so I don't think so.

[xmen 983]

well tbh unholy pala ult doesn't stop killing him.. You can just go in stab go out and go in again or just shoot the guy...

 

Nvm I'm dumb xD

Edited October 8, 2014 by xmen

[turbulance 105]

I really don't see unholy paladin ult as a real issue for bomb defense unless your trying to classify it as a ward and don't we allow wards on bombs?

[Name 2616]

I really don't see unholy paladin ult as a real issue for bomb defense unless your trying to classify it as a ward and don't we allow wards on bombs?

you don't see an issue with making defusing impossible for 15 seconds? It's literally impossible to defuse even with a kit for the duration of the ultimate

[Lv. 100 Crobat 1325]

I agree with the #1, using it in a planted c4 will actually grant 15 extra seconds, calculating c4 takes 45 seconds to explode then if is used in 25-19 then the round will be for the T's and that will be gay as fuck; But what punishment will be applied?

[MrCoolness 547]

Thorgot,

 

are you going to make a piece of code to prevent ults like unholy paladin from working on the bomb?

 

If not, I can add a race specific solution to unholy paladin for that since I'm familiar with the code and it's a pretty simple fix.

[thorgot 2420]

Thorgot,

 

are you going to make a piece of code to prevent ults like unholy paladin from working on the bomb?

 

If not, I can add a race specific solution to unholy paladin for that since I'm familiar with the code and it's a pretty simple fix.

Already written, will test it tonight.

[turbulance 105]

I didn't know the unholy paladins ult was 15 seconds?

[thorgot 2420]

I didn't know the unholy paladins ult was 15 seconds?

It's 12 seconds, not that it makes a big difference.

[thorgot 2420]

Both of these should be fixed.

[Name 2616]

you're a beautiful butterfly

[xmen 983]

I request parachutes for everyone!

 

#bringbackparachuteglitch2014

[MrCoolness 547]

All hail thorgot