October 2012 Management Changes

[Shadow 1044]

The sad reality is that no matter what we staff do, it's always going to be wrong.

Nothing we have done is ever good enough. Most of us have put in many, many hours of our personal time running this clan and making sure our servers are fun, and that we have a forum where we can congregate and socialize.

I know that it is impossible to please everyone, but know that we're still here busting our asses for you.

We don't 'get' anything from this. There is no pizza, free games or Cadillac cars. The only free games and stuff are given to the community. You guys. Not us.

For the most part running this community is a job, one we don't get paid for.

/rant

I don't think anyone would of complained if you promoted another one of the ADV or dojima.

The stark reality about the Financial Manager position is that it deals with a lot of sensitive information. It holds a huge potential for PIP to happen. It is 90% about who we can trust with that information, and 10% about who can do the job.

Because BC has done this job before, and handled the personal information that is a part of the job, i trust her fully to do this with no leaks of personal information.

So give the finances to someone who has been back for 2 weeks? Oh Okay.

If you're worried about the money, know that only Jason has the power to do anything with it. My paypal sub account is 'read only', meaning I can't touch the money. BC's paypal account will have the same permissions as my own.

Point taken. What obligations does she have to the community? As far as I know she doesn't play on any servers, she posts a few times, and she didn't stay in contact with anyone during her absence who is part of the active community as far as I know. That doesn't seem very obligated compared to Sketch, ctark, and C1 who are on the servers very often and constantly on the forum. Sensitive information? Anyone who is mature and has worked a real job wouldn't be like OH YEAH I KNOW EVERYONE NAME/CREDIT TIME TO PIP/BUY HEROIN. I mean seriously I would consider that as a possible guideline if we were promoting outside the clan... oh wait.

Edited October 15, 2012 by Shadow

[BeauutifulChaos 902]

The sad reality is that no matter what we staff do, it's always going to be wrong.

Nothing we have done is ever good enough. Most of us have put in many, many hours of our personal time running this clan and making sure our servers are fun, and that we have a forum where we can congregate and socialize.

I know that it is impossible to please everyone, but know that we're still here busting our asses for you.

We don't 'get' anything from this. There is no pizza, free games or Cadillac cars. The only free games and stuff are given to the community. You guys. Not us.

For the most part running this community is a job, one we don't get paid for.

/rant

I don't think anyone would of complained if you promoted another one of the ADV or dojima.

The stark reality about the Financial Manager position is that it deals with a lot of sensitive information. It holds a huge potential for PIP to happen. It is 90% about who we can trust with that information, and 10% about who can do the job.

Because BC has done this job before, and handled the personal information that is a part of the job, i trust her fully to do this with no leaks of personal information.

So give the finances to someone who has been back for 2 weeks? Oh Okay.

If you're worried about the money, know that only Jason has the power to do anything with it. My paypal sub account is 'read only', meaning I can't touch the money. BC's paypal account will have the same permissions as my own.

Point taken. What obligations does she have to the community? As far as I know she doesn't play on any servers, she posts a few times, and she didn't stay in contact with anyone during her absence who is part of the active community as far as I know. That doesn't seem very obligated compared to Sketch, ctark, and C1 who are on the servers very often and constantly on the forum. Sensitive information? Anyone who is mature and has worked a real job wouldn't be like OH YEAH I KNOW EVERYONE NAME TIME TO PIP. I mean seriously I would consider that as a possible guideline if we were promoting outside the clan... oh wait.

Not to put Zeus in the bag but, the reason I had no contact with the community was because I wasn't able to. My relationship with Zeus... he forced me to ask for myself to be banned and remove myself from sG altogether. I tried and failed many of times, which were my random pop ups here and there. And I do play on the servers, WCS and I do have CS:GO.

[Guest Ziggity Zots]

Point taken. What obligations does she have to the community? As far as I know she doesn't play on any servers, she posts a few times, and she didn't stay in contact with anyone during her absence who is part of the active community as far as I know. That doesn't seem very obligated compared to Sketch, ctark, and C1 who are on the servers very often and constantly on the forum. Sensitive information? Anyone who is mature and has worked a real job wouldn't be like OH YEAH I KNOW EVERYONE NAME/CREDIT TIME TO PIP/BUY HEROIN. I mean seriously I would consider that as a possible guideline if we were promoting outside the clan... oh wait.

The reason she didn't stick around or keep in contact with anyone is my fault, I made her stay away, so you can't really hold that against her. She'll definitely be active now, so if you're worried about it, just give it a bit of time, and reserve your judgement til you can make an accurate assessment.

EDIT:

Beat me to it. Not putting me in the bag, it's just the truth.

Edited October 15, 2012 by Ziggity Zots

[Marvin 1296]

The sad reality is that no matter what we staff do, it's always going to be wrong.

Nothing we have done is ever good enough. Most of us have put in many, many hours of our personal time running this clan and making sure our servers are fun, and that we have a forum where we can congregate and socialize.

I know that it is impossible to please everyone, but know that we're still here busting our asses for you.

We don't 'get' anything from this. There is no pizza, free games or Cadillac cars. The only free games and stuff are given to the community. You guys. Not us.

For the most part running this community is a job, one we don't get paid for.

/rant

I don't think anyone would of complained if you promoted another one of the ADV or dojima.

The stark reality about the Financial Manager position is that it deals with a lot of sensitive information. It holds a huge potential for PIP to happen. It is 90% about who we can trust with that information, and 10% about who can do the job.

Because BC has done this job before, and handled the personal information that is a part of the job, i trust her fully to do this with no leaks of personal information.

So give the finances to someone who has been back for 2 weeks? Oh Okay.

If you're worried about the money, know that only Jason has the power to do anything with it. My paypal sub account is 'read only', meaning I can't touch the money. BC's paypal account will have the same permissions as my own.

Point taken. What obligations does she have to the community? As far as I know she doesn't play on any servers, she posts a few times, and she didn't stay in contact with anyone during her absence who is part of the active community as far as I know. That doesn't seem very obligated compared to Sketch, ctark, and C1 who are on the servers very often and constantly on the forum. Sensitive information? Anyone who is mature and has worked a real job wouldn't be like OH YEAH I KNOW EVERYONE NAME/CREDIT TIME TO PIP/BUY HEROIN. I mean seriously I would consider that as a possible guideline if we were promoting outside the clan... oh wait.

This is the internet.

Also, we do not have credit card numbers.

[Goldentongue 3616]

The sad reality is that no matter what we staff do, it's always going to be wrong.

Nothing we have done is ever good enough. Most of us have put in many, many hours of our personal time running this clan and making sure our servers are fun, and that we have a forum where we can congregate and socialize.

I know that it is impossible to please everyone, but know that we're still here busting our asses for you.

We don't 'get' anything from this. There is no pizza, free games or Cadillac cars. The only free games and stuff are given to the community. You guys. Not us.

For the most part running this community is a job, one we don't get paid for.

/rant

I don't think anyone would of complained if you promoted another one of the ADV or dojima.

The stark reality about the Financial Manager position is that it deals with a lot of sensitive information. It holds a huge potential for PIP to happen. It is 90% about who we can trust with that information, and 10% about who can do the job.

Because BC has done this job before, and handled the personal information that is a part of the job, i trust her fully to do this with no leaks of personal information.

So give the finances to someone who has been back for 2 weeks? Oh Okay.

As we all know or should know, back in the day I was handling the finances for Coinstar for about 2-3 months. I had full access to everything, if I really wanted to screw over sG I would have done it then. Again, whether I have been here the whole time or back for 2 weeks, I have no wrongful intentions.

Lol, I don't think anyone questions your intentions, simply your competence. Trust me, no one is under the impression that you were the mastermind behind the Renji affair.

[Smooth-eh 856]

Zeus plz stop posting in this thread if you were sucking BC's dick anymore she might grow one. Please just inbox her.

Marvin you are a great staff member, everyone loves you so don't be made! <3 I think it's understandable the community is mad when a member comes back inactive for a fucking long time and suddenly is JCS and leapfrogs ADV/RO.

Edited October 15, 2012 by Smooth-eh

[Shadow 1044]

The sad reality is that no matter what we staff do, it's always going to be wrong.

Nothing we have done is ever good enough. Most of us have put in many, many hours of our personal time running this clan and making sure our servers are fun, and that we have a forum where we can congregate and socialize.

I know that it is impossible to please everyone, but know that we're still here busting our asses for you.

We don't 'get' anything from this. There is no pizza, free games or Cadillac cars. The only free games and stuff are given to the community. You guys. Not us.

For the most part running this community is a job, one we don't get paid for.

/rant

I don't think anyone would of complained if you promoted another one of the ADV or dojima.

The stark reality about the Financial Manager position is that it deals with a lot of sensitive information. It holds a huge potential for PIP to happen. It is 90% about who we can trust with that information, and 10% about who can do the job.

Because BC has done this job before, and handled the personal information that is a part of the job, i trust her fully to do this with no leaks of personal information.

So give the finances to someone who has been back for 2 weeks? Oh Okay.

If you're worried about the money, know that only Jason has the power to do anything with it. My paypal sub account is 'read only', meaning I can't touch the money. BC's paypal account will have the same permissions as my own.

Point taken. What obligations does she have to the community? As far as I know she doesn't play on any servers, she posts a few times, and she didn't stay in contact with anyone during her absence who is part of the active community as far as I know. That doesn't seem very obligated compared to Sketch, ctark, and C1 who are on the servers very often and constantly on the forum. Sensitive information? Anyone who is mature and has worked a real job wouldn't be like OH YEAH I KNOW EVERYONE NAME TIME TO PIP. I mean seriously I would consider that as a possible guideline if we were promoting outside the clan... oh wait.

Not to put Zeus in the bag but, the reason I had no contact with the community was because I wasn't able to. My relationship with Zeus... he forced me to ask for myself to be banned and remove myself from sG altogether. I tried and failed many of times, which were my random pop ups here and there. And I do play on the servers, WCS and I do have CS:GO.

Did he beat you if you tried? Force is a terrible word to use. More like he told you and you were like sure.

[Gonepostal2000 620]

wb bc<3 brings back memories of the old days

Edited October 15, 2012 by Gonepostal2000

[Guest Ziggity Zots]

Zeus plz stop posting in this thread if you were sucking BC's dick anymore she might grow one. Please just inbox her.

Marvin you are a great staff member, everyone loves you so don't be made! <3 I think it's understandable the community is mad when a member comes back inactive for a fucking long time and suddenly is JCS and leapfrogs ADV/RO.

But it tastes so damn good. :C

Did he beat you if you tried? Force is a terrible word to use. More like he told you and you were like sure.

May as well. I made her feel like shit any time she did.

[Dojima 7619]

If anyone new wants to talk to me, they are more than able to.

What if I replace 'new' with 'old' and 'talk' with 'cyber'.

Chaos is mature as well, and has experience, which Dojima doesn't, unfortunately.

I'll have you know that I've been an upstanding member of the sG wiki moderator group for some time now.

[PANTERA 686]

BC is cool, Mimic is cool, all is good. Chaos is more qualified to be a JCS--seeing as she was one previously--than most other people who could've been in the pool of possible replacements to begin with; I'm okay with these decisions. Besides if ANYONE, regardless of rank, fucks up bad enough, they are removed from that position. So let people show what they're capable of before chastising them.

[Guest Ziggity Zots]

Chaos is mature as well, and has experience, which Dojima doesn't, unfortunately.

I'll have you know that I've been an upstanding member of the sG wiki moderator group for some time now.

I stand corrected.

DOJIMA FOR JCS!

[BLiNDBoi 930]

Lets simplify this thread for a post. Congrats and good luck to everyone.

[Toxygen 1885]

dafuck

does this mean i actually have responsibilities now

Edited October 15, 2012 by Toxygen

[Goldentongue 3616]

Besides if ANYONE, regardless of rank, fucks up bad enough, they are removed from that position. So let people show what they're capable of before chastising them.

Which she was. And then we forgot about it, her former lapdog brought her new attention, and she's back in that position.

So let people show what they're capable of before chastising them.

She has...

[BeauutifulChaos 902]

Besides if ANYONE, regardless of rank, fucks up bad enough, they are removed from that position. So let people show what they're capable of before chastising them.

Which she was. And then we forgot about it, her former lapdog brought her new attention, and she's back in that position.

So let people show what they're capable of before chastising them.

She has...

As I said before, I was not demoted for my mistakes, I was demoted for not writing an apology letter.

[Shadow 1044]

BC is cool, Mimic is cool, all is good. Chaos is more qualified to be a JCS--seeing as she was one previously--than most other people who could've been in the pool of possible replacements to begin with; I'm okay with these decisions. Besides if ANYONE, regardless of rank, fucks up bad enough, they are removed from that position. So let people show what they're capable of before chastising them.

Or they can rejoin with an APP. Like everyone else had to do previously. Or like I said someone PM oreo and see if he wants to come back and be Financial Manager.

@ Marvin It is the internet, but when it comes down to it most people with any power in this clan aren't going to PIP everyone. Fuck most people don't even have the balls to do it. It is about obligations who has something to risk. Someone who has basically been inactive doesn't seem to have any obligations. It doesn't seem too overwhelmingly complicated, which I am sure one of the current ADV could handle it and be just/more successful.

Part of being in power would be to recognize a mistake, which renji was.

@ zeus. You made her feel like shit and she stayed with you. Sounds smart.

Edited October 15, 2012 by Shadow

[Oreo 2073]

Besides if ANYONE, regardless of rank, fucks up bad enough, they are removed from that position. So let people show what they're capable of before chastising them.

Which she was. And then we forgot about it, her former lapdog brought her new attention, and she's back in that position.

So let people show what they're capable of before chastising them.

She has...

As I said before, I was not demoted for my mistakes, I was demoted for not writing an apology letter.

[Goldentongue 3616]

Besides if ANYONE, regardless of rank, fucks up bad enough, they are removed from that position. So let people show what they're capable of before chastising them.

Which she was. And then we forgot about it, her former lapdog brought her new attention, and she's back in that position.

So let people show what they're capable of before chastising them.

She has...

As I said before, I was not demoted for my mistakes, I was demoted for not writing an apology letter...

...to apologize for your mistakes.

Not only did you not understand what you did wrong then, apparently you still don't.

[Spell 331]

Mmmhm

[Reaper0470 1123]

14 October 2012

Dear Syndicate Gamers,

As of recent - we have many management changes. Many of you know that Junzou has steppe down from staff. Sandy Balls will also be joining him and we'd like to thank him for his time and effort he's put in the clan. We would also like to welcome BChaos back onto staff as a Financial Manager. She is bringing to the table knowledge and experience that we need. In addition we would also like to congratulate Mimic on becoming JCS, due to affirmitive action.

As of today, here is our current roster:

Jason, Chairman

Mitch, Director of Operations

Marvin, Clan Director

blob, General Manager

Mimic, Community Manager

BeauutifulChaos, Financial Manager

fontaine, Technical Manager

ChosenOne2000, Internal/Ranks & Recruitment Head

Sketchmaticx, External/Public Relations Head

Toxygen, Server Officer Department Head

diabeticdaniel, Complaint Department Head /Jailbreak Division Leader

drug, Senior Engineer

centran, Senior Engineer

ctark, Minecraft Division Leader / Senior Engineer

ZachPL, Garry's Mod Division Leader

iherdcows, Jailbreak Division Advisor / Public Relations Specialist

Sportsteen583, Garry's Mod and Minecraft Division Advisor

Lindseth, General Advisor / SO Coordinator

n2fwa, General Advisor / CD Specialist

Yiyas, WCS1 Division Engineer

iyedol, WCS2 Divison Engineer

drunkula, BHOP Division Engineer

Honey, DarkRP Division Engineer

Congratulations to all new staff and thanks for those leaving us.

- sG | Sketch [ADV]

External/Public Relations Head

RED - Don't know this person.

GREEN - Assumed correctly.

Also congrats to everyone who got promoted.

[Mitch 2111]

Bc isn't even in the clan.

Way to pull a renji.

EDIT:

Wasn't*

She actually is. In all reality Jason at the time (Spring 2010) didn't have the right to shove her out of the clan like he did. He demoted her from JCS and she requested to be permanently banned. Her clan membership didn't change much afterwards until she requested to be un-permad. In all technicalities she still is a member, this goes throughout many people who "magically" lose their clan membership, they can technically regain it if there isn't any solid evidence or any testimonies from JCS/Managers at the time of them leaving.

Like I said she could of at least applied like Karma did. If not lets let Ulitmateoreo back in and make him JCS. This is of course gonna cause a bad reaction. I mean most newfags are like who the fuck is that? A girl who has been back for 2 weeks from a LOA who also quit sG before. She was annoying when she was around. Anyone could do what she is going to be doing, so why not promote in house.

Read above. She has had more access to this clan than every staff member except for Jason has right now and has never done anything wrong with it. She knows what is expected of her and how to do it, this is why we asked her to become a Financial Manager. She wasn't even asking us to make her into a staff position, we need to plan for the future and Marvin and I agreed that she may be our best bet at this moment.

UltimateOreo is a lying sack of shit. He's the first and only staff member I've seen lie about donating to the clan and insisting that he paid, trying to deceive Marvin. Also, I'm pretty sure BChaos was here before your time Shadow, don't think you were around when she was.

I'm just gonna leave this here...

http://www.joinsg.ne...-february-2010/

CoinStar believed this. While Jason was gone on a leave of absence (cruise with his family, said he would be gone for 10 days), CoinStar enlisted BChaos, and Renji to enact and throw in some sweeping clan-wide changes. There we have it, the clan coup of February 2010.

Take in note that these changes were accepted only by three out of six JCS, (Coin, Chaos and Church accepted; Jason, Longcat and Hobo were never informed).

BChaos was also forced off staff and the community due to her being the only staff member involved in this situation and refusing to write a letter of apology. (Every other staff member involved was forced to write one, BChaos and Renji were the only two who did not). Despite most ideas being Coinstars, he did not write an apology letter.

Renji, Chaos, and SynikaL eventually go AWOL from the community.

Just letting you know, I'm the guy who wrote that.

pz

BC's avatar is a mirror pic of herself taken with her phone.

I wouldn't trust her to walk home from the farmer's market with a bag of sweet potatoes, much less anyone's finances.

As stated before, she had the potential to run off with this clan's funds and severely screw us over many times and has never done a single thing. She is probably one of the few financial managers I can firmly trust that only wants to help and do her job. She's done so before and we need her help again. There's not many other people that I would put trust into as much as her.

Don't even think it's because friends, she had the misunderstanding that I hated her until three days ago.

The sad reality is that no matter what we staff do, it's always going to be wrong.

Nothing we have done is ever good enough. Most of us have put in many, many hours of our personal time running this clan and making sure our servers are fun, and that we have a forum where we can congregate and socialize.

I know that it is impossible to please everyone, but know that we're still here busting our asses for you.

We don't 'get' anything from this. There is no pizza, free games or Cadillac cars. The only free games and stuff are given to the community. You guys. Not us.

For the most part running this community is a job, one we don't get paid for.

/rant

I don't think anyone would of complained if you promoted another one of the ADV or dojima.

The stark reality about the Financial Manager position is that it deals with a lot of sensitive information. It holds a huge potential for PIP to happen. It is 90% about who we can trust with that information, and 10% about who can do the job.

Because BC has done this job before, and handled the personal information that is a part of the job, i trust her fully to do this with no leaks of personal information.

So give the finances to someone who has been back for 2 weeks? Oh Okay.

If you're worried about the money, know that only Jason has the power to do anything with it. My paypal sub account is 'read only', meaning I can't touch the money. BC's paypal account will have the same permissions as my own.

Point taken. What obligations does she have to the community? As far as I know she doesn't play on any servers, she posts a few times, and she didn't stay in contact with anyone during her absence who is part of the active community as far as I know. That doesn't seem very obligated compared to Sketch, ctark, and C1 who are on the servers very often and constantly on the forum. Sensitive information? Anyone who is mature and has worked a real job wouldn't be like OH YEAH I KNOW EVERYONE NAME/CREDIT TIME TO PIP/BUY HEROIN. I mean seriously I would consider that as a possible guideline if we were promoting outside the clan... oh wait.

Read above and stop being so ignorant, please.

The sad reality is that no matter what we staff do, it's always going to be wrong.

Nothing we have done is ever good enough. Most of us have put in many, many hours of our personal time running this clan and making sure our servers are fun, and that we have a forum where we can congregate and socialize.

I know that it is impossible to please everyone, but know that we're still here busting our asses for you.

We don't 'get' anything from this. There is no pizza, free games or Cadillac cars. The only free games and stuff are given to the community. You guys. Not us.

For the most part running this community is a job, one we don't get paid for.

/rant

I don't think anyone would of complained if you promoted another one of the ADV or dojima.

The stark reality about the Financial Manager position is that it deals with a lot of sensitive information. It holds a huge potential for PIP to happen. It is 90% about who we can trust with that information, and 10% about who can do the job.

Because BC has done this job before, and handled the personal information that is a part of the job, i trust her fully to do this with no leaks of personal information.

So give the finances to someone who has been back for 2 weeks? Oh Okay.

As we all know or should know, back in the day I was handling the finances for Coinstar for about 2-3 months. I had full access to everything, if I really wanted to screw over sG I would have done it then. Again, whether I have been here the whole time or back for 2 weeks, I have no wrongful intentions.

Lol, I don't think anyone questions your intentions, simply your competence. Trust me, no one is under the impression that you were the mastermind behind the Renji affair.

Read above. She's competent, it's just funny because the majority of people who hate her for her "past" weren't even here for the slightest bit of it.

[BeauutifulChaos 902]

Besides if ANYONE, regardless of rank, fucks up bad enough, they are removed from that position. So let people show what they're capable of before chastising them.

Which she was. And then we forgot about it, her former lapdog brought her new attention, and she's back in that position.

So let people show what they're capable of before chastising them.

She has...

As I said before, I was not demoted for my mistakes, I was demoted for not writing an apology letter...

...to apologize for your mistakes.

Not only did you not understand what you did wrong then, apparently you still don't.

And where are you getting this?

I have apologized to anyone who has been willing to listen. I do recognize my mistakes I had made, and I will fully say they were mistakes, they were with good intentions, but they were definitely played out incorrectly.

[Guest Ziggity Zots]

...to apologize for your mistakes.

Not only did you not understand what you did wrong then, apparently you still don't.

An apology does not mean you recognize your mistakes, and recognizing your mistakes does not necessitate an apology.

[Toxygen 1885]

Why is Zeus still in this thread?