Trelvick

See that's kind of where I'm going at here. Perhaps even a discussion between the two.
 
"either way, why did his retard friends come in, and act as if circlejerking the cd was gonna help his case."

Please keep it civil. I've only recently really become his friend. I would have done this for any regular (even tyler) if I had support or standing information on what occurred.

1. That there is one of the bigger problems with our server community, a lot of us enjoy c4 a little too much and are known for extreme reactions towards this. I was unaware of this
2. Also unaware and it appears c4 didn't know as well.
3. This one I'm a little surprised about, I didn't think you were being aggressive but rather others were being aggressive to you. You might not notice it but you do have the tendency to seem like you are ignoring people or paying little interest to their feelings on the matter (at least on the server) this makes others sort of upset with you and they begin to show hostile attitudes.
4. This is the point that had I known I would probably not be defending him on, I don't fully listen to things on the server so I missed some of this and figured you might have provoked him. But this kind of behaviour warrants you muting or gagging him. Honestly I'm sorry for what he said to you, I was not aware of this treatment.
5. Honestly good job trying to cool down the situation but you really should just !sm him or something. I kind of wish he would have tried to talk to you about things instead of acting in that matter. I might want to also note that by saying "shhhhh" you may have also been doing what I typed in number #3 even if it wasn't on purpose which could easily have provoked him even more.
 
I am very glad that you decided to comment about this, hearing the other side of the story I can understand why he was banned. If not for the "DDOS" joke/threat then for constant abuse and harassment of you.

I understand what I said may have "irked" you the wrong way. But honestly I just feel like a perma ban was a tad too harsh for this. We have SO on all the time and like I said I find the majority to be very enjoyable (I don't hate crobat or zip or any of the really at all, I just think they need to be more careful with players  (the jokes people make of them when I join I join in because I figure they laugh them off) ). However coming on and banning people who are known for these kinds of things when others will just settle for a gag or a warning seems a little too far. I actually would love there to be a neutral discussion between zip and C4. Honestly it sounds like things just need to be cleaned up and agreed upon and disagreed upon to which people leave it at that.
 
Edit: sorry for the number of edits but I don't want to confuse the point.

See that's kind of where I'm going at here. Perhaps even a discussion between the two.
 
"either way, why did his retard friends come in, and act as if circlejerking the cd was gonna help his case."

Please keep it civil. I've only recently really become his friend. I would have done this for any regular (even tyler) if I had support or standing information on what occurred.

See that's kind of where I'm going at here. Perhaps even a discussion between the two.
 
"either way, why did his retard friends come in, and act as if circlejerking the cd was gonna help his case."

Please keep it civil. I've only recently really become his friend. I would have done this for any regular (even tyler) if I had support or standing information on what occurred.