Neospawn 19 Posted August 6, 2014 The abusive spamming of abilities is what made crackhouse fun! I miss the craziness and the intensity! If we have Hang'EmLow and Dolls why shouldn't we have Crackhouse too? 1 Sirgency reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B-cock #1 641 Posted August 6, 2014 I miss the crack whores, I have been forced to go to places like office and snort crack off of ghouls dick while he holds a crit nade by my face during the process.I need a safer place like crack house.Pls 1 Agent reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MisterTurkes 544 Posted August 6, 2014 1 Agent reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLiNDBoi 930 Posted August 6, 2014 In before, remove crackhouse for suicide explosions, camping and wall shooting. 2 MrCoolness and Agent reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrCoolness 547 Posted August 6, 2014 The crackhouse in GO isn't the same as it was back in CSS. It's smaller, and it doesn't work the same. When we had crackhouse in the server the population would drastically decline whenever the map was changed to it. Memories of crackhouse are nice but the reality is it's not as good in GO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B-cock #1 641 Posted August 6, 2014 I don't think its fair to say that people leave just because its crackhouse. Unless they specifically state that they leave because its crack house and they will never play that map because its crack house, then that would be a valid reason.I will leave on maps like dust 2 because I get sick of that map. Doesn't mean I don't like the map or anything else, just means I don't want to play it at that time.People said the same thing about dolls but there have been plenty of incidents of a full server on dolls. Just a minority of players don't like crack house (for whatever reason) and they make the most noise.When I was an admin I would make a vote to change to the map and majority would vote for it, not everyone has to like the map. We have a map voting system, let the people decide if they want to play it. If people don't like it then it won't be played. Simple as that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrCoolness 547 Posted August 6, 2014 This isn't the first time this has happened B-cock, it's more like the 3rd. You can live without crackhouse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B-cock #1 641 Posted August 6, 2014 Let the people decide if we play crack house, I know you're war3 overlord but let the community decide on maps at least. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drunkula 1635 Posted August 6, 2014 Just a minority of players don't like crack house (for whatever reason) and they make the most noise.i'd be interested to know what metrics you used to come to this conclusion. coolness has provided his which directly contradict this statement.Let the people decide if we play crack house, I know you're war3 overlord but let the community decide on maps at least.i think you're missing the part where he said the community decided 3x already Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B-cock #1 641 Posted August 6, 2014 (edited) I was never given metrics for "drastically decline", the only metrics I have to give are that THE MAJORITY voted to go on the map. Was there a community vote? I didn't see it at least.Like I said, if people don't like the map then they won't vote for it when it pops up. Edited August 6, 2014 by B-cock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Christmas 643 Posted August 6, 2014 Why not make crackhouse biggerer and betterer? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drunkula 1635 Posted August 6, 2014 I was never given metrics for "drastically decline", the only metrics I have to give are that THE MAJORITY voted to go on the map. Was there a community vote? I didn't see it at least.Like I said, if people don't like the map then they won't vote for it when it pops up.server population when a map is being played is a valid metric. straw polling users on whether or not they like crackhouse, as you have suggested, is a poor metric. here are some concrete numbers for you: http://sg.gameme.com/maps/csgo you can see crackhouse rounding in at #31 in the maplist, just behind a version of dolls that we used from june to august of 2013 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B-cock #1 641 Posted August 6, 2014 (edited) I also may not be conveying what I'm trying to say well. Why is crackhouse the ONLY map (to my knowledge) that can't be in the map rotation because people don't like it? Why aren't the other maps subject to this? Why can't it just be in the map rotation? If people don't like it, then they won't vote for it (majority wins). server population when a map is being played is a valid metric. straw polling users on whether or not they like crackhouse, as you have suggested, is a poor metric. here are some concrete numbers for you: http://sg.gameme.com/maps/csgo you can see crackhouse rounding in at #31 in the maplist, just behind a version of dolls that we used for 2 months a year ago From what I recall, crackhouse was never in the map rotation that we could vote on. An admin could change to the map, but it wasn't nominatable. You also can't bring in maps that had a longer lifetime on the server and compare it to a map that the people can't even nominate. Again, I ask why is this map not allowed to be in the map rotation so people can vote whether they play it or not. Edited August 6, 2014 by B-cock 1 Flt. Lt. Space Bugs reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MisterTurkes 544 Posted August 6, 2014 (edited) Actually i like the idea Christmas put up. Maybe a mapper would be willing to resize/redo aspects of Crackhouse to make it playable for our war 3 server. Make it the same size as like speed castle with the house in the middle and buildings outlying it or maybe in the middle of a forest like cs_insertion or de_lake Edited August 6, 2014 by MisterTurkes 1 Gamer4125 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drunkula 1635 Posted August 6, 2014 i know nothing about the map never being in the rotation, but coolness has already said that the map has been removed 3 times. normally when we "remove" a map it is simply commented out of rotation, and not deleted from the server. this is our practice to ensure that someone down the road doesn't waste their time adding a potential map to find out that we've already decided we don't want it, or it crashes the server, etc. crackhouse was often a problematic map in the cs:s days, and although i haven't played the cs:go version, if it is anything like it was i don't blame coolness for removing it from the server. all of that aside. the people who work on the servers are the ones who ultimately decide whether a map ends up in rotation. if coolness replied to this thread and simply said "i am a tyrant and crackhouse isn't going into rotation." that would really be the end of it. 1 MrCoolness reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B-cock #1 641 Posted August 6, 2014 all of that aside. the people who work on the servers are the ones who ultimately decide whether a map ends up in rotation. if coolness replied to this thread and simply said "i am a tyrant and crackhouse isn't going into rotation." that would really be the end of it.That would be fine, I just thought it was more community run than it is apparently. 1 Flt. Lt. Space Bugs reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gamer4125 40 Posted August 6, 2014 I like crackhouse. I don't like the suicide races killing me from a floor below with their crazy vertical range. Have Christmas or someone else make the map bigger and taller. I mean I wouldn't mind crackhouse being back on as is either, but still. Maybe if someone does redo the map we can have a final stand for crackhouse, if people like it, it stays. If not crackhouse dies forever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flt. Lt. Space Bugs 45 Posted August 6, 2014 Crackhouse was one of my favorite maps and it gets removed, and yet Dolls still continues to stay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skitt 1307 Posted August 6, 2014 Why not make crackhouse biggerer and betterer?be the hero that wc3 deserves Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smooth-eh 856 Posted August 6, 2014 Miss this map Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agent 22 Posted August 6, 2014 Cant we make our own crackhouse map? Or possibly even modify the existing one to meet our needs. (Wants) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AntyCrix 591 Posted August 6, 2014 People said the same thing about dolls but there have been plenty of incidents of a full server on dolls. Just a minority of players don't like crack house (for whatever reason) and they make the most noise. hey if you replace the i in noise and put it in most between the o and s you get a moist nose 2 skitt and Gamer4125 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrCoolness 547 Posted August 6, 2014 The map was on rotation and was removed due to the ability abuse on heroes. It doesn't work out like it used to and it was already on rotation and removed more than once. Believe it or not I actually loved crackhouse in CSS and I'm sad to see that it doesn't work out in CS:GO. That being said, the version of crackhouse that we have already tried several times is not going back into rotation, however I would be more than happy to try out a bigger more suitable version of Crackhouse if someone is willing to make a fix for the war3 mod. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neospawn 19 Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) The map was on rotation and was removed due to the ability abuse on heroes. It doesn't work out like it used to and it was already on rotation and removed more than once. Believe it or not I actually loved crackhouse in CSS and I'm sad to see that it doesn't work out in CS:GO. That being said, the version of crackhouse that we have already tried several times is not going back into rotation, however I would be more than happy to try out a bigger more suitable version of Crackhouse if someone is willing to make a fix for the war3 mod.I'm somewhat confused. Is the Crackhouse for CS:GO different from the CSS one or does it just not work out with the CS:GO server? *Edit* I checked the Steam Workshop and there are multiple ports of the CSS Crackhouse with the exact same dimensions. Edited August 7, 2014 by CaPtAiN HaiR Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbulance 105 Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) http://csgo.gamebanana.com/maps/177785 The best way to win an argument or atleast try and meet the other side half way is working towards a common goal. In this case its getting a A) crackhouse on the server and B) Not having a version where races can exploit it as much as possible Edited August 7, 2014 by turbulance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
