centran 4457 Posted February 1, 2014 It pains me to introduce gnat 2.0! The gnat has been modified so it can get kills upon suggestion from a few of you. The chance to disarm a pistol has been decreased. Once a victim is fully disarmed and down to the knife you have a slight chance to bash. Once a victim is bashed the gnat can do 30% of normal damage to them! wow! Doesn't seem like much but this might make the gnat too OP but some wanted a way for gnats to get kills so here it is. For you gnat haters this is going to make you hate the gnat even more. For those that didn't want to play the gnat because it can't get kills well then this change was for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fontaine 1744 Posted February 1, 2014 Based centran Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swed 2651 Posted February 1, 2014 Do these abilities also pass on even after you change your race? 1 Ika reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xmen 983 Posted February 1, 2014 sobjfferd buffeded Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryziou 538 Posted February 1, 2014 Based centran Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AntyCrix 591 Posted February 2, 2014 Man this race sounds incredibly stupid 2 1 Master Chadron, Behos and yeet reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ichalvl 1752 Posted February 2, 2014 Goddamn the gnat is already a piece of shit race but now it can actually kill me? Good thing my race is all about flying all around the map. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Chadron 279 Posted February 2, 2014 Guess it's time to stop playing on this shit server. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
centran 4457 Posted February 2, 2014 />Guess it's time to stop playing on this shit server.And nothing of value was lost... Why don't you offer some creative criticism instead of just bitching and saying something should be removed. Gnat 2.0 was the direct result of peoples idea to improve the race. I didn't think it was needed but was up to try something different based on the communities input since it is such a controversial race. 8 1 Timeassassin103, AntyCrix, skitt and 6 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kwijibo 10 Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) Seems like you reverted Gnat to it's original form, 1 dmg and no bashi got completely addicted to play gnat, im lvl 51 already and i hope there is an expertise ahead i gotta admit that 5 seconds bash is too OP, maybe lowering it to 2-3 seconds would be acceptablealso, what exactly pester is supposed to do? Edited February 3, 2014 by TurtleFrenzy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
centran 4457 Posted February 4, 2014 pester does a random annoyance every .5 up to 4 seconds. The annoyances are a slap, blind, or shake. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MOFLSTOMP 899 Posted February 4, 2014 Just get rid of it 1 1 Master Chadron and Gerald reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kwijibo 10 Posted February 4, 2014 nah keep it, it's da best troll race! yet was the bash removed on purpose or not? 1 1 Behos and AntyCrix reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vexium 35 Posted February 4, 2014 im with kwijibo on this one. gnat is great with this setup imo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kwijibo 10 Posted February 4, 2014 veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeex!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vexium 35 Posted February 4, 2014 KWIJIBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbulance 105 Posted February 4, 2014 Please make this fucking race go away. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
centran 4457 Posted February 4, 2014 bash seems to have been removed on purpose and gnat reverted to how it used to be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rootbeer 1293 Posted February 4, 2014 Bash was 5 seconds? How did anyone even think that was a good idea lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
centran 4457 Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) Come on! It wasn't that bad... it was only 4 seconds. NightElfs entangling roots is 3 seconds. AND! That is a 100%. For the gnat you had to disarm their primary, disarm their secondary, and then it was still a random chance once they where down to their knife. Couple this with the fact that you only did increased damage once a target was bashed I didn't feel it was too bad. Up against a bot it was hard to get a kill with that much. I admit the numbers could have used some tweaking but before I was able to play with it live the change was reverted. I can talk with who reverted the changes and see if we want to try a killer gnat version again but I wasn't too enthused to change the gnat to begin with so idk. For those that where able to try it out during it's brief stint what did you think? If you guys want us to give it an honest try again then let us know. Otherwise I am surely not going to push for it. The change was made because of some of your opinions. Edited February 4, 2014 by centran Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrCoolness 547 Posted February 4, 2014 bash seems to have been removed on purpose and gnat reverted to how it used to be. err well I edited gnat and deadly decoy to fix a bug with hand of god but decided to just rework hand of god to make it work but either way I first edited the two races and stuck them into the server... the fact that they were reverted probably has to do with that they weren't pushed onto the repository and so I didn't have the updated version edit: also knowing it was given a 4 second bash is even more terrifying especially if the enemy is holding a knife or is a knife race because that just makes it more ridiculous... on top of screen shake and all that crap going on you're going to be bashed too, might as well just quit while you're ahead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jiyeon 369 Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) Come on! It wasn't that bad... it was only 4 seconds. NightElfs entangling roots is 3 seconds. AND! That is a 100%. For the gnat you had to disarm their primary, disarm their secondary, and then it was still a random chance once they where down to their knife. Couple this with the fact that you only did increased damage once a target was bashed I didn't feel it was too bad. Up against a bot it was hard to get a kill with that much. I admit the numbers could have used some tweaking but before I was able to play with it live the change was reverted. I can talk with who reverted the changes and see if we want to try a killer gnat version again but I wasn't too enthused to change the gnat to begin with so idk. For those that where able to try it out during it's brief stint what did you think? If you guys want us to give it an honest try again then let us know. Otherwise I am surely not going to push for it. The change was made because of some of your opinions.Can you stop trying to defend your awful race for one second and just listen to the community that isn't retarded? The gnat has 80% extra attack speed, 55% chance to disarm (which, btw, is not hard to proc when you have 180% attack speed while left clicking), idk how much evasion, 200% ms, and 200 hp with like a stupid amount of invis (easily one of the best bonuses in this mode). Do you know how hard it is to hit, let alone see, that thing and how easy it is for him to disarm you while running circles around your ass? And you're bashed for 4 seconds with only a knife, but when an NE entangles you, you can still shoot at them. Canadian was doing work this morning with that stupid buff. Even if he didn't get kills with it (which he did), he sure as hell guaranteed a kill with 1 teammate nearby and a dude bashed for 4 seconds with no guns. Like I said before, I appreciate your enthusiasm for the server and the hard work you put into coding your races. However, I do not appreciate when said enthusiasm and hard work leads to poor execution and causing players to have a negative experience on our server. This race (and especially the dumb bash) is the literal definition of griefing. I apologize if I come off as an asshole, but I couldn't think of any way to phrase my thoughts in a nicer manner. Edited February 4, 2014 by Jiyeon 3 Ika, MOFLSTOMP and Flt. Lt. Space Bugs reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xmen 983 Posted February 4, 2014 Idd a race made just to piss ppl off doesn't really seem like a "wcs1" race which used to be the more competitive and balanced of the servers. On the other hand it's war3 now.... But shit seems retarded still :/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vexium 35 Posted February 4, 2014 i second jiyeon's thoughts. centran's tone in that post seems to be trolling, and thus far a bunch of his "releases" have basically fucked with game balance ridiculously. please be more conscious of balance when releasing your content, otherwise, don't release it at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kwijibo 10 Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) well lowering bash to 3 seconds would be ok, and reducing the dmg during bash would be fine (like 3 dmg instead of 1) i played GNAT a lot and still with the bash it was kinda hard to kill somebody, if the team is tight knit you dotn stand a chance, your only way is to go after lone players to finish them as gnat when the Bash was in effect. Edited February 4, 2014 by Kwijibo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites