Evolutionism vs Creationism

[KGameLover1 1306]

Imo there could be a god, but the god that the Bible talks about can't seeing as he is imperfect. And if there is a god he would have be separate from the universe, unless the universe is infinite itself.

Goldentongue is going to have a fun time with this one.

Sure did.

But I'm on mobile, give me a break.

[Christmas 643]

Imo there could be a god, but the god that the Bible talks about can't seeing as he is imperfect. And if there is a god he would have be separate from the universe, unless the universe is infinite itself.

Goldentongue is going to have a fun time with this one.

Sure did.

But I'm on mobile, give me a break.

They contain the same number of letters.

Edited December 31, 2012 by Christmas

[Eaglewonj 167]

Gimme that textbook and I'll show you what I think of it...

Also, note that "Theistic Evolutionism" does still technically allow for evolution. Kind of like God setting a snowball a rollin down a hill and it grows to town smothering size....

[Necrophenia 435]

Gimme that textbook and I'll show you what I think of it...

Also, note that "Theistic Evolutionism" does still technically allow for evolution. Kind of like God setting a snowball a rollin down a hill and it grows to town smothering size....

It doesn't for Christianity

[Oreo 2073]

Gimme that textbook and I'll show you what I think of it...

Also, note that "Theistic Evolutionism" does still technically allow for evolution. Kind of like God setting a snowball a rollin down a hill and it grows to town smothering size....

It doesn't for Christianity

What are you talking about? The concept of theistic evolutionism would be that an entity such as god created something when there was nothing and in turn it's developed into what it is now.

Edited January 6, 2013 by Oreo

[Necrophenia 435]

Gimme that textbook and I'll show you what I think of it...

Also, note that "Theistic Evolutionism" does still technically allow for evolution. Kind of like God setting a snowball a rollin down a hill and it grows to town smothering size....

It doesn't for Christianity

What are you talking about? The concept of theistic evolutionism would be that an entity such as god created something when there was nothing and in turn it's developed into what it is now.

So if Humans developed from animals, why do they have a soul as in the bible it states animals have no soul.

[B-cock #1 641]

Personally, I have my beliefs how the world came to be but in the end I could really care less. All this debate to me is someone wanting to be right over the other, in the end, it doesn't affect my day-to-day life and just gets people pissed at each other.

The questions are obviously favored in one direction, but since some people care, they should go over all the theories/facts/whatever you want to call them so the students get the wide expanse of knowledge needed and not a whole bunch of one sided views.

/rant

[Oreo 2073]

Gimme that textbook and I'll show you what I think of it...

Also, note that "Theistic Evolutionism" does still technically allow for evolution. Kind of like God setting a snowball a rollin down a hill and it grows to town smothering size....

It doesn't for Christianity

What are you talking about? The concept of theistic evolutionism would be that an entity such as god created something when there was nothing and in turn it's developed into what it is now.

So if Humans developed from animals, why do they have a soul as in the bible it states animals have no soul.

What? Quote would be nice here.

Also, the bible isn't the word of God(at least in my opinion). Just saiyan, it's historical writings compiled together that contain morals, symbolism and history.

[Necrophenia 435]

What? Quote would be nice here.

Also, the bible isn't the word of God(at least in my opinion). Just saiyan, it's historical writings compiled together that contain morals, symbolism and history.

Its from Genesis where God breathes life into man, and just bring other animals into creation.

And the Bible probably isn't the word of God if your an atheist but is if your a theist.

[Oreo 2073]

What? Quote would be nice here.

Also, the bible isn't the word of God(at least in my opinion). Just saiyan, it's historical writings compiled together that contain morals, symbolism and history.

Its from Genesis where God breathes life into man, and just bring other animals into creation.

And the Bible probably isn't the word of God if your an atheist but is if your a theist.

You know Adam and Eve is fiction right? A ton of genesis is symbolic. It's also translated off in a few parts, as "God created the world in 7 days" is wrong. They switched the hebrew word "hom" which is a long undefined period of time to "day" in the english language when translating it. Biblical scholars have pretty much been weeding out the true definitions of many works in the bible and not what has been taught for years by many churches. There are also many christians who don't believe it's the word of God, I know tons of Catholics, Protestants, whatever christian religion you can name that believe it's similar to what I described.

[stds catchemall 65]

Everyone has their own opinion. I choose to believe that we didn't evolve from nothing or there would be no creates but humans. Something had to create us. I just dont know what my opinion is on that subject yet.

[Necrophenia 435]

What? Quote would be nice here.

Also, the bible isn't the word of God(at least in my opinion). Just saiyan, it's historical writings compiled together that contain morals, symbolism and history.

Its from Genesis where God breathes life into man, and just bring other animals into creation.

And the Bible probably isn't the word of God if your an atheist but is if your a theist.

You know Adam and Eve is fiction right? A ton of genesis is symbolic. It's also translated off in a few parts, as "God created the world in 7 days" is wrong. They switched the hebrew word "hom" which is a long undefined period of time to "day" in the english language when translating it. Biblical scholars have pretty much been weeding out the true definitions of many works in the bible and not what has been taught for years by many churches. There are also many christians who don't believe it's the word of God, I know tons of Catholics, Protestants, whatever christian religion you can name that believe it's similar to what I described.

Yes I know Adam and Eve is fiction, but there is still the symbolism of God breathing life in to Humans and giving them and a soul and not doing the same to animals to show animals don't have a soul and humans do. In the eyes of Christianity at least.

Edited January 6, 2013 by Necrophenia

[stds catchemall 65]

Don't hate on his opinion guys. Let Necro have his opinion =D.

[Jewinator 5000 750]

Also, note that "Theistic Evolutionism" does still technically allow for evolution.

lol what do you mean "technically"?

Also, #Necro, I don't want to have a clusterfuck of big quote boxes in this post so I'm gonna quote you without those.

"It doesn't for Christianity"

Debatable. There are Christians who maintain a young earth creationism view on the topic, but the majority of them believe in theistic evolution. The Roman Catholic Church accepted it as part of their doctrine in the 50s. Some Christians hold that at some point in evolution God "breathed" a soul into humans, which is when we became different from animals, at least in the eyes of God. But the Bible is quite clear on this, humans have souls because we are children of God and animals don't because they are not. Maybe they're pets of God, I don't know.

"So if Humans developed from animals, why do they have a soul as in the bible it states animals have no soul."

Some Christians hold that at a point in evolution God "breathed" a soul into humans, which is when humans became different from animals, at least in the eyes of God. But the Bible is quite clear on this, humans have souls because they're made in the image of God and animals don't because they are not. Maybe they're pets of God, I don't know.

Edited January 6, 2013 by Jewinator 5000

[Dyscivist 5686]

I admire the westboro bapist church for being strong in their convictions and actually paying attention to the heinous shit the old testament has to say and trying to abide by it, rather than being the typical group of Christian pick and choose pussies.

[Tristan. 1053]

Gimmie that christian side-hug.

[Zachmanman 877]

[noobsteak 9]

Atheist here. Agnostics are just atheists who are afraid to admit it for various reasons. I went to a catholic high school and if I ever saw this shit in a class of mine, I would have either requested to be removed from the class or point out some obvious flaws in religion.

[Oreo 2073]

Atheist here. Agnostics are just atheists who are afraid to admit it for various reasons. I went to a catholic high school and if I ever saw this shit in a class of mine, I would have either requested to be removed from the class or point out some obvious flaws in religion.

Lol, thats such a false statement.

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[Oreo 2073]

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[BLiNDBoi 930]

Atheist here. Agnostics are just atheists who are afraid to admit it for various reasons. I went to a catholic high school and if I ever saw this shit in a class of mine, I would have either requested to be removed from the class or point out some obvious flaws in religion.

Lol, thats such a false statement.

Agnostics from the definition that I was told is an individual who doesn't believe in a god/deity however they do still believe in a "higher power."

Agnosticism is the view that the truth values of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, as well as other religious and metaphysical claims—are unknown and (so far as can be judged) unknowable.^[1][2][3] Agnosticism can be defined in various ways, and is sometimes used to indicate doubt or a skeptical approach to questions. In some senses, agnosticism is a stance about the difference between belief and knowledge, rather than about any specific claim or belief. In the popular sense, an agnostic is someone who neither believes nor disbelieves in the existence of a deity or deities, whereas a theist and an atheist believe and disbelieve, respectively.^[2] In the strict sense, however, agnosticism is the view that humanity does not currently possess the requisite knowledge and/or reason to provide sufficient rational grounds to justify the belief that deities either do or do not exist.

So I got bored and Google searched it, lookie wiki is the number one link...

When it comes to my religious values I tend to state atheist because it is easier to explain. Am I a true atheist? Shit after reading that whole paragraph above I might be more a agnostic than a atheist.

On-topic: take you're pick?

Evolution vs creationism. Whatever I believe evolution is true but who said that the biggest troll or largest group of trolls known to mankind isn't just fucking with us.

BTW just going to throw this out there; we were planted on earth by an alien race.

[Dyscivist 5686]

When it comes to my religious values I tend to state atheist because it is easier to explain. Am I a true atheist? Shit after reading that whole paragraph above I might be more a agnostic than a atheist.

Once again, they're not mutually exclusive. Belief and knowledge are different things, and saying that we can't ever truly conclude on the truth value of claims of deities' existences does not preclude us from believing them to be false with good reason.

Edited January 8, 2013 by Dyscivist