Evolutionism vs Creationism

[Tortoise 2791]

So I saw this story about a creationist textbook for public schools in america.

This nearly made me sick to think that children in public schools these days are being force fed this bullshit.

Had this occured when I was in school, I would have fought it tooth and nail.

What is your stance on the subject?

Also want to say that this is obviously opinion based, so dont go flaming on people whose opinion differs from your own.

[ElectronicDrug 7496]

force fed this bullshit.

so dont go flaming on people whose opinion differs from your own.

[drunkula 1635]

best comment was the guy who said he subscribed to gravitism

[Tortoise 2791]

force fed this bullshit.

so dont go flaming on people whose opinion differs from your own.

[Dyscivist 5686]

Yup, that's the theory of evolution.

It evolved from nothing.

- Darwin

Edited December 28, 2012 by Dyscivist

[DarkPredator 1193]

The textbook wasnt that bad in the table, but the way the questions about the table are worded... lol

[Pebbz. 953]

force fed this bullshit.

so dont go flaming on people whose opinion differs from your own.

lol u missed the point completely.

and just for consistency, ur fat.

[Oreo 2073]

What state was this?

This nearly made me sick to think that children in public schools these days are being force fed this bullshit.

Had this occured when I was in school, I would have fought it tooth and nail.

What is your stance on the subject?

Except it's not being force fed to anyone in any public school anywhere. As for the subject of creationism, it would be incorrect to assume that nothing has changed over time through evolution and that the world itself is only 10000 years old.

[BeauutifulChaos 902]

Evolution.

[ElectronicDrug 7496]

force fed this bullshit.

so dont go flaming on people whose opinion differs from your own.

[blob 1985]

-Insert clip of Season 8 finale of Always Sunny

[KGameLover1 1306]

a better question is

why can't we all just get along

[Oreo 2073]

[Tristan. 1053]

lol christians

[Goldentongue 3616]

Also want to say that this is obviously opinion based

Wrong.

Opinion has nothing to do with accepting or denying reality. Scientific and historical truths are not subjective.

[fatb0y 1337]

ITT: Tortoise being worse than christians.

So instead of exposing children too all theories, you think they should just be taught the one that you agree with right?

I think we have a Fatscist here.

[DarkPredator 1193]

They arent just being exposed to other theories there, theyre being exposed to them and in the same stroke painting those other theories with a horrible brush

[blob 1985]

As a Christian, Evolution is what I 'believe' in, doesn't have to be so black or white though. Even then, schools shouldn't teach Creationism as Science, but public schools should still teach about World Religion and belief systems, etc.

[Zachmanman 877]

As a Christian, Evolution is what I 'believe' in, doesn't have to be so black or white though. Even then, schools shouldn't teach Creationism as Science, but public schools should still teach about World Religion and belief systems, etc.

in history or philosophy class

[blob 1985]

As a Christian, Evolution is what I 'believe' in, doesn't have to be so black or white though. Even then, schools shouldn't teach Creationism as Science, but public schools should still teach about World Religion and belief systems, etc.

in history or philosophy class

History makes sense- there have been a lot of religions that can be taught with when they were 'founded' - Greek, Roman etc etc

[DarkPredator 1193]

My dad is a strong christian. He's also a PHD physicist working in the field with lasers. He believes in the evolution of species over time. He also believes that God breathed the soul into humans at a certain point, and thats where humans in the bible start off. He looks at a lot of the bible as metaphors.

Some people unify their beliefs by picking and choosing what they believe. If someone chooses to believe in evolution, that doesnt mean they believe exactly what everyone else who believes in evolution believes. And some christians would like to deny, but besides the main tenets of christianity, its very open to intrepretation while remaining true to the basics.

Personally, I'm agnostic. I can't be bothered to make claims to know what we don't know. A lot of ppl, especially atheists, hate agnosticism for some reason. I don't really get it.

[kevinbotz 143]

As a Christian, Evolution is what I 'believe' in, doesn't have to be so black or white though. Even then, schools shouldn't teach Creationism as Science, but public schools should still teach about World Religion and belief systems, etc.

in history or philosophy class

History makes sense- there have been a lot of religions that can be taught with when they were 'founded' - Greek, Roman etc etc

I have nothing against the inclusion of religion in a school curriculum. Just like you said, religion is perhaps one of the most influential and dynamic forces in world history. There's no doubt that religion has been the catalyst for many major events and phenomena.

What I am against is the inclusion of pseudoscience, which is precisely what Creationism, or Intelligent Design, is. The most vocal proponents of ID (Michael Behe, William Dembski) have all been thoroughly discredited by the scientific community. Teaching Creationism in a classroom is akin to teaching Eugenics, or teaching that masturbation will cause blindness. The only place for pseudoscience is upon the ash heap of history, nowhere else.

[Faptastic 217]

Honestly, religion should be separated from schools. Institutionalizing beliefs in the educational system is the equivalent of brainwashing in my opinion.

I believe in 3 (theistic evolutionism). I just can't believe that something as diverse and monolithic as the universe could have been created from pure nothing. I'm an agnostic theist. I believe there are deity(ies) out there but I can't (nobody can) be completely certain whether or not there is a specific God responsible for the creation of the universe.

But that's just me; believe whatever you think is plausible.

Edited December 29, 2012 by Faptastic

[ElectronicDrug 7496]

Also want to say that this is obviously opinion based

Wrong.

Opinion has nothing to do with accepting or denying reality. Scientific and historical truths are not subjective.

Whoops. Didn't mean to downvote you.

[fatb0y 1337]

As a Christian, Evolution is what I 'believe' in, doesn't have to be so black or white though. Even then, schools shouldn't teach Creationism as Science, but public schools should still teach about World Religion and belief systems, etc.

in history or philosophy class

History makes sense- there have been a lot of religions that can be taught with when they were 'founded' - Greek, Roman etc etc

I have nothing against the inclusion of religion in a school curriculum. Just like you said, religion is perhaps one of the most influential and dynamic forces in world history. There's no doubt that religion has been the catalyst for many major events and phenomena.

What I am against is the inclusion of pseudoscience, which is precisely what Creationism, or Intelligent Design, is. The most vocal proponents of ID (Michael Behe, William Dembski) have all been thoroughly discredited by the scientific community. Teaching Creationism in a classroom is akin to teaching Eugenics, or teaching that masturbation will cause blindness. The only place for pseudoscience is upon the ash heap of history, nowhere else.

What's pseudoscience? Earth orbiting around the sun was pseudoscience at one point in time, Earth being round was pseudoscience at one point in time.

It doesn't hurt intelligent children to be given all the facts and deciding for themselves what they think is more reasonable. It only hurts dumb ones who are scared of opposing theories.