UnknownLegend 5480 Posted January 15, 2011 I decided to test the reliability of some of the guns out on a few AFKs. Here's what I found with the shotgun, M4A1, and Deagle:Deagle on Coinstar-- 2 shots point blank to the head, took both shots to kill him.M4A1 on Guitar Guy-- 25 shots to the head, point blank, taken slowly, one after the other. Note that a clip is 20 shots.Shotgun on Coinstar-- 2 shots point blank to the head, took both shots.Blob, any idea what the fuck is going on? Is the server tickrate low? Is it just the way Gmod works? Because seriously, this is horseshit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goldentongue 3616 Posted January 15, 2011 M4A1 on Guitar Guy-- 25 shots to the head, point blank, taken slowly, one after the other. Note that a clip is 20 shots.I TOLD HIM I TOLD HIM I TOLD HIM that gun was completely nerfed and useless. "It's good now, I increased the firing rate." he said.FUCK THAT.It's not the firing rate bro, it's the fact that I could do more damage to someone slapping them with my soggy 3 inch flacid penis.Thanks for this Junzou. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zachmanman 877 Posted January 15, 2011 lol same with m249, i srsly pumped mitch full of like 60 bullets today and he was only like badly hurt or whatever orange isthe mac10 is the strongest weapon on there Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goldentongue 3616 Posted January 15, 2011 the mac10 is the strongest weapon on thereBy a massive amount too, other guns aren't even close.*edit: I thanked you just because I wanted to be number 666. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackStone 66 Posted January 15, 2011 Those are some pretty craptastic numbers, especially on the shotgun. A gun that is known for making a hole out of anything fleshy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blob 1985 Posted January 15, 2011 There is no way to change the tickrate on the OB engine (from what I've heard)The M4A1 does 23 damage per shot. Aim better.Deagle headshot 1 hit killShotgun in head, also 1 hit.If you've played any other TTT server, you'd know they are all pretty much like this. Something to do with the mod..EDIT: also if you're killing innocents, you are losing karma, and you lose damage percentage. Also maybe you do less damage to innocent and innocent? Not sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goldentongue 3616 Posted January 15, 2011 The M4A1 does 23 damage per shot. Aim better.Yes, because Junzou missed 21 out of 25 slow fire shots from point blank range... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blob 1985 Posted January 15, 2011 Yes, because Junzou missed 21 out of 25 slow fire shots from point blank range...check that edit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UnknownLegend 5480 Posted January 15, 2011 There is no way to change the tickrate on the OB engine (from what I've heard)The M4A1 does 23 damage per shot. Aim better.Deagle headshot 1 hit killShotgun in head, also 1 hit.If you've played any other TTT server, you'd know they are all pretty much like this. Something to do with the mod..EDIT: also if you're killing innocents, you are losing karma, and you lose damage percentage. Also maybe you do less damage to innocent and innocent? Not sure.I was at 1K karma. These were spaced out throughout the day. Maybe your comprehension level is low, let me clarify:Point blank = the muzzle of my gun was on their headTaken slowly = 1-2 shots per second, not spam, carefully adjusted to go through his fucking eyeYesterday I remember emptying 40 rounds from the M249 into two guys in the vent in Assault, once again at point blank range. I didn't kill either one of them. Something is wrong.EDIT:: Once again, I fired 25 shots. Even if my karma was resulting in a damage reduction of say, 50%, it should not have taken 25 HEAD SHOTS AT POINT BLANK RANGE to kill someone.Sketch has also reported several times being a Traitor and shooting AFKs (and others) at point blank with a Deagle and it not killing them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goldentongue 3616 Posted January 15, 2011 check that edit.Would low karma really count for that much of a discrepancy?He could be doing only about 25% damage? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tubbles 252 Posted January 15, 2011 OH darn, you explained the karma already... I dunno, I get one shot kills with the deagle to the dome and it only takes like 4-5 shots from an m16 to the head to kill someone from my experience, it's my favorite gun lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UnknownLegend 5480 Posted January 15, 2011 HOW LOW WAS YOUR KARMA LOL? DERP. Karma damage reduction for the loss.I would have to have karma low enough to reduce my damage to 1/6th, so whatever the level is that reduces it by 83.5%.(I'm pretty sure that's lower than the threshold we allow before banning people) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blob 1985 Posted January 15, 2011 Maybe an AFK thing I suppose, there is nothing in the config for AFK protection thought.All TTT servers have damage like this though, by the way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dojima 7619 Posted January 15, 2011 Blob, any idea what the fuck is going on? Is the server tickrate low? Is it just the way Gmod works? Because seriously, this is horseshit.Both, and yes it is horseshit.There is no way to change the tickrate on the OB engine (from what I've heard)There is, but it's typically not a good idea to mess with it. I believe the tickrate on TTT is 33. It's pretty bad, but GMOD's hard on a server. Not exactly a well-optimized game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blob 1985 Posted January 15, 2011 Took me 3 shots to kill AFK J_Mafia today with a shotgun to the face.Has something to do with AFK's then. I'll drop the AFK timer to like 90 seconds or lower. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UnknownLegend 5480 Posted January 15, 2011 Well, that would help with AFK's, and note that I'm not saying guns need a nerf-- I'm commenting on the unreliability of damage and registered hits, I guess. My guess is it does have to do with the tic rate, but we probably shouldn't mess with that before consulting Jason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dojima 7619 Posted January 15, 2011 It's probably just the fact that GMOD itself is glitchy, and the TTT mod is also a little janky. Compounding issues. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I <3 People of Color 2 Posted January 15, 2011 OH darn, you explained the karma already... I dunno, I get one shot kills with the deagle to the dome and it only takes like 4-5 shots from an m16 to the head to kill someone from my experience, it's my favorite gun lol.Same for me. I would prefer a better gun over the M16 but it still gets the job done...sometimes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chikendinner 13 Posted January 15, 2011 it is similar on EVERY TTT server as me and my friend play on quite alot and by the sounds of it as you are trying on a non moving player there is something at work!you can have 1 shot kill deagle on a player that has moved and then static infront of you Chikendinner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fruggles 23 Posted January 15, 2011 I'm pretty sure in addition to Gmod/TTT gaying the server, it also has something to do with the actual body and bullet entities...again a GMod thing. I'll look and see if I can find the article :L Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
