Yiyas 66 Posted November 3, 2010 Hey guys I was just wondering if I should add in a little feature to fight off whores a little.The idea is if a certain player has a K: D ratio over 2:1, their attack skills will run through a check that has 25% to fail.Say if they're on 3:1 it has 50% to failWhile over 4:1 it has 75% to fail.That or, perhaps, when they get a kill and they're over 4:1 it will randomly select on of their races and set that as their next race following round. I could also try to make it so it picks 5 of their lowest races then randomly chooses from that.The first action wouldnt care about if you're over, under or around 24 kills.While the second would. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konah 0 Posted November 3, 2010 Hey guys I was just wondering if I should add in a little feature to fight off whores a little.The idea is if a certain player has a K:Dratio over 2:1, their attack skills will run through a check that has 25% to fail.Say if they're on 3:1 it has 50% to failWhile over 4:1 it has 75% to fail.That or, perhaps, when they get a kill and they're over 4:1 it will randomly select on of their races and set that as their next race following round. I could also try to make it so it picks 5 of their lowest races then randomly chooses from that.The first action wouldnt care about if you're over, under or around 24 kills.While the second would.The whoring ratio is 4:1, why punish someone who is 2:1?Otherwise I think this is great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOPEZ 1750 Posted November 3, 2010 Yeah not 2:1, 3:1 maybe, 4:1 definitely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Empire 30 Posted November 3, 2010 No to the first one.Yes/maybe to the second. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marvin 1296 Posted November 3, 2010 Does this mean if I'm 4 and 1 my race gets changed? Or does the score have to be past 24-6 still? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RockbeatsPaper 190 Posted November 3, 2010 Yeah sounds good from 3:1 on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest badman Posted November 3, 2010 I like this idea as it incourages whores to level by putting them as there lowest levels but definatly stick to 4-1 I think Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taboo 2392 Posted November 3, 2010 I could also try to make it so it picks 5 of their lowest races then randomly chooses from that.I think that's the best option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manifest Destiny 0 Posted November 3, 2010 Random race change would be for the best Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ika 320 Posted November 3, 2010 Random race change would be for the best I would prefer this, although I think the "random" would have to exclude pistol/knife races, unless you're already on one (i.e. if you're 4:1 on Remelia, you get randomly changed to one of the other pistol races; 4:1 on savage, ditto, etc etc). Even better, make them automatically switch to a random race with a level lower than your average race level - though this might be hard to code.Maybe if you're over 6:1 and above 24 kills, you get automatically switched to Default until you drop back down?or, restrict shopmenu items (besides crusaders and tomes) when above 4:1? if you already have shop items, you randomly lose one each round until you're down to zero.The thing with your original proposal is that attack skills are not always what makes the race powerful - like Human's strengths lie in being pretty invisible and not having tracers, while being able to survive at least one headshot. Keeper also doesn't depend much on attack skills - it relies on LJ and its defensive skills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taboo 2392 Posted November 3, 2010 I would prefer this, although I think the "random" would have to exclude pistol/knife races, unless you're already on one (i.e. if you're 4:1 on Remelia, you get randomly changed to one of the other pistol races; 4:1 on savage, ditto, etc etc). Even better, make them automatically switch to a random race with a level lower than your average race level - though this might be hard to code.Or possibly have a list of lower leveled, choice of races pop up in the menu when you start to whore, and you're forced to choose one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diabeticdaniel 426 Posted November 3, 2010 I don't really see the first choice as something good, as others have said the whore rule starts at 4:1, not 2:1. On the other hand, random race change sounds appealing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dead-Pool 0 Posted November 3, 2010 this ratio thin never really works ppl intentionality fuck up there ratio so they cant be yelled at for whoring. but 3:1 seams better then 4:1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thorgot 2420 Posted November 4, 2010 Switching to a random lower level race or giving a choice of a few lower level races makes more sense to me than a handicap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aero 1427 Posted November 4, 2010 Randomly choose from all UNMAXED races would be the best choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iraling 8 Posted November 4, 2010 Choice number two sounds like it would work better, Could it select a random page and YOU pick from that, Like a forced pick and not the lowest 5 races + it being random.First one sounds like bullshit not only the ratio of 2v1 is bad but reduced dmg? Auto Slays would work better then choice #1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capn_Obvious 0 Posted November 4, 2010 I like the 2nd option done at 3:1 ration. I still consider someone whoring who's 62-19 on a race with over 100 levels. Also, is there a way you can block the race they were on in the change race menu? so they can't just go right back to it the next round? thanks for giving this some time, it will make the server more welcoming to newer players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zagrao 0 Posted November 4, 2010 so what if the person manages to get a 4:1 kdr on non-maxed races and continues to maintain it as the person continues to level up non-maxed races?What will you do about that since on an off chance that the code gets screwy, it'll affect the person on the non-maxed races as well.I'd rather have a script that did the following instead.1. check kdr to see if it's at 4:1 and 24+ kills.2. check to see if person with 4:1 is on non-maxed race, if so, ignore, but recheck until it is maxed at the beginning of each round. If not, continue to step 3.3. give a message to change race after 4 rounds or after death, and with each round that the person survives, repeat message with rounds to change going down.4. If person survives 4 rounds, then on the 5th round, slay and change it to a random race and repeat stages 1-4.5. Check to see if person changes race after death. If person dies and does not change races, slay automatically and change person's race. works in conjunction with step 4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elric is Dead 0 Posted November 4, 2010 why not just have the admins set a 1 hour ban for whoring.??but instead of a random race, put them on default. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butt-Hole Surfer 0 Posted November 4, 2010 Total random race would seem good since most people stay on OP races maybe it will mix it up for them hard core people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dojima 7619 Posted November 4, 2010 The idea is if a certain player has a K: D ratio over 2:1, their attack skills will run through a check that has 25% to fail.Say if they're on 3:1 it has 50% to failWhile over 4:1 it has 75% to fail.Pretty sweet idea, but agree with others who say nothing for 2:1/3:1. I think a modification of what you have above could be great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taboo 2392 Posted November 4, 2010 Pretty sweet idea, but agree with others who say nothing for 2:1/3:1. I think a modification of what you have above could be great.Like said before, a handicap isn't gonna do much. They still get the same bonuses from the race with or without using an ultimate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oracion 35 Posted November 4, 2010 I like the idea of auto-changing, but is there any way to prevent them from going back? I say the good old fashion auto-slay after two rounds would be nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taboo 2392 Posted November 4, 2010 I like the idea of auto-changing, but is there any way to prevent them from going back? I say the good old fashion auto-slay after two rounds would be nice.Or possibly add a delay in between race changes, like 5 rounds per race you choose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dojima 7619 Posted November 4, 2010 Like said before, a handicap isn't gonna do much. They still get the same bonuses from the race with or without using an ultimate.Oh, I was under the impression that it'd have a chance for everything to fail. Though, I'm not sure when that determination would be made...perhaps at the start of the round? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites