Zachmanman 877 Posted May 22, 2010 You guys are all retarded and defending you is sometimes impossible. Its made less bad by the fact though that junzou dedicated his first 5 posts to respamming the convo just to troll people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UltaPonch 80 Posted May 22, 2010 You guys are all retarded and defending you is sometimes impossible. Its made less bad by the fact though that junzou dedicated his first 5 posts to respamming the convo just to troll peopleNothing needed defending, your arguments are just a waste of bandwidth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fohacidal Posted May 22, 2010 I officially give up on zach Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dojima 7619 Posted May 22, 2010 Yeah, want to know why? Because UV never cracked down when they should have. Has anyone ever heard of the CnB TF2 community? Everyone is so peaceful there. And have lots of laughs and entertainment. I mean, they have Titty Tuesday where you post tits and pick the best ones. But they also have maturity, and no tolerance for trolling.No, that's not really why at all. It's more because the administration staff on the other sites realize what is an issue and what isn't an issue. They're both more lenient and more strict. They can see what's causing an issue and what's just good fun, and at the end of the day, they realize that it's all about having a good time. Respecting their members helps too. For Jason to immediately jump on Psycho about his age when he's making an earnest appeal is completely untenable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UnknownLegend 5480 Posted May 22, 2010 picI fucking hate you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zachmanman 877 Posted May 22, 2010 No, that's not really why at all. It's more because the administration staff on the other sites realize what is an issue and what isn't an issue. They're both more lenient and more strict. They can see what's causing an issue and what's just good fun, and at the end of the day, they realize that it's all about having a good time. Respecting their members helps too. For Jason to immediately jump on Psycho about his age when he's making an earnest appeal is completely untenable. nb4 "but heez da wun hoo maykz da 4rums werk, hee kan ensolt u"I fucking hate you. you know, that every time i post fat black porn, you feel more at homeand consider that picture a side effect of no more FFA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Freekiller #3 342 Posted May 22, 2010 wow zach nice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psycho 0 Posted May 22, 2010 No, that's not really why at all. It's more because the administration staff on the other sites realize what is an issue and what isn't an issue. They're both more lenient and more strict. They can see what's causing an issue and what's just good fun, and at the end of the day, they realize that it's all about having a good time. Respecting their members helps too. For Jason to immediately jump on Psycho about his age when he's making an earnest appeal is completely untenable.I still don't understand why Staff doesn't recognize that the best way to run a COMMUNITY is through public community voting and decisions. You'd think through the P2 incident, Renj incident, and now FFA incident, they'd of learned by now. Ok, we understand that you want whats best for the community, but does the community want that? Its like taking down MG to save space and open another JB to replace it without telling us. Bottom line is: Staff needs to start letting us voice our opinion on changes they make. The trolls aren't whats makeing this community go down hill, its the Staff. Pretty much all major problems in UV/sG history have been the result of poor staff decisions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unknowned 0 Posted May 22, 2010 I still don't understand why Staff doesn't recognize that the best way to run a COMMUNITY is through public community voting and decisions. You'd think through the P2 incident, Renj incident, and now FFA incident, they'd of learned by now. Ok, we understand that you want whats best for the community, but does the community want that? Its like taking down MG to save space and open another JB to replace it without telling us. Bottom line is: Staff needs to start letting us voice our opinion on changes they make. The trolls aren't whats makeing this community go down hill, its the Staff. Pretty much all major problems in UV/sG history have been the result of poor staff decisions.I completely agree with Psycho, we need to vote for stuff as a community Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tex1an2 680 Posted May 22, 2010 I still don't understand why Staff doesn't recognize that the best way to run a COMMUNITY is through public community voting and decisions. You'd think through the P2 incident, Renj incident, and now FFA incident, they'd of learned by now. Ok, we understand that you want whats best for the community, but does the community want that? Its like taking down MG to save space and open another JB to replace it without telling us. Bottom line is: Staff needs to start letting us voice our opinion on changes they make. The trolls aren't whats makeing this community go down hill, its the Staff. Pretty much all major problems in UV/sG history have been the result of poor staff decisions.No true. That is NOT the best way to get things done. That, actually, will only cause more problems, and never get anything done. Having representatives for the good of the gaming community, which is what we have, making decisions is the best way to handle all problems. From my own perspective, nothing is wrong with this change, and quite frankly it's almost annoying that the community members have MADE this into a shit storm and jumped on the band wagon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard Dean 2502 Posted May 22, 2010 Hahahhahahahaah zach Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I <3 People of Color 2 Posted May 22, 2010 I completely agree with Psycho, we need to vote for stuff as a communityMembers make a community. Community is run by staff. I think the members should be able to vote on how they want the community to be changed and not just have the staff think "oh we have power lets do what we want". Not all the staff are bad, in fact most are pretty cool and doesn't afraid of anything, but some are just bleh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard Dean 2502 Posted May 22, 2010 http://www.syndicate-gamers.net/showthread.php/25893-In-Regards-to-the-Community.Ill leave this here, made 3 months ago...I am glad to see people will finally be permanently banned, but it should have happened way long ago. Taking rid of ffa is only going to have trolling occur more frequently and all over the forums instead of keeping it within one place./thread Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dojima 7619 Posted May 22, 2010 No true. That is NOT the best way to get things done. That, actually, will only cause more problems, and never get anything done. Having representatives for the good of the gaming community, which is what we have, making decisions is the best way to handle all problems. From my own perspective, nothing is wrong with this change, and quite frankly it's almost annoying that the community members have MADE this into a shit storm and jumped on the band wagon.Yeah, man, fuck treating people with respect. Let's just baselessly and hypocritically cut them down because we're in an arbitrary position of power!I'm curious why you think a democratic community voting (sorry, don't want to imply that this is in any way like a government) system wouldn't work? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oracion 35 Posted May 22, 2010 Yeah, man, fuck treating people with respect. Let's just baselessly and hypocritically cut them down because we're in an arbitrary position of power!I'm curious why you think a democratic community voting (sorry, don't want to imply that this is in any way like a government) system wouldn't work?Because as I said before, if we did that for a lot more serious things, chances are we'd get nowhere and it's just involve more fights between members, and more backlash at us for suggesting it. I'd also guess that if we did do more with the community over things, if it DID pass, the support for it would die after and whatever was made wouldn't be used much as is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChosenOne2000 4440 Posted May 22, 2010 nb4 200 postsLook people, if nothing has been resolved in the first 20 pages. What makes you think another 20 is the answer?EDIT: You got your point across.....let this shit die! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oracion 35 Posted May 22, 2010 nb4 20 pagesLook people, if nothing has been resolved in the first 20 pages. What makes you think another 20 is the answer?Fail inb420.Well, I guess you could say this is a debate of what "should" be done now... but I honestly don't see how it'd fix itself if we allowed everything to be voted on by the community. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I <3 People of Color 2 Posted May 22, 2010 Fail inb420.Well, I guess you could say this is a debate of what "should" be done now... but I honestly don't see how it'd fix itself if we allowed everything to be voted on by the community.Giving the community a voice is much better than the community having no voice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dojima 7619 Posted May 22, 2010 Because as I said before, if we did that for a lot more serious things, chances are we'd get nowhere and it's just involve more fights between members, and more backlash at us for suggesting it. I'd also guess that if we did do more with the community over things, if it DID pass, the support for it would die after and whatever was made wouldn't be used much as is.haha, how do you get nowhere with a vote. It gets voted on, and whatever is decided is decided. No one can really argue about it when everyone has an equal say. It doesn't get any more fair than that. The interest in something might die, true, but it really just depends what it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oracion 35 Posted May 22, 2010 haha, how do you get nowhere with a vote. It gets voted on, and whatever is decided is decided. No one can really argue about it when everyone has an equal say. It doesn't get any more fair than that. The interest in something might die, true, but it really just depends what it is.Essentially, what I'm saying it regardless of what is done, it'd probably lead to the same loop: We give a choice out, people vote, we do it, people bitch and moan saying we're making bad decisions for listening to only some people on the forums, we offer another vote, etc etc.So really it'd come down to a lose-lose considering how things work at times. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oracion 35 Posted May 22, 2010 haha, how do you get nowhere with a vote. It gets voted on, and whatever is decided is decided. No one can really argue about it when everyone has an equal say. It doesn't get any more fair than that. The interest in something might die, true, but it really just depends what it is.Essentially, what I'm saying it regardless of what is done, it'd probably lead to the same loop: We give a choice out, people vote, we do it, people bitch and moan saying we're making bad decisions for listening to only some people on the forums, we offer another vote, etc etc.So really it'd come down to a lose-lose considering how things work at times. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dojima 7619 Posted May 22, 2010 I don't think that'd happen at all as long as staff came up with ideas and we all voted on them. Maybe that's just me, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oracion 35 Posted May 22, 2010 I don't think that'd happen at all as long as staff came up with ideas and we all voted on them. Maybe that's just me, though.Considering how people take the smaller things that we vote on, you may be surprised. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DA KID 9 Posted May 22, 2010 slightly off topic slightly on topic.. i was gonna created my FFA thread in the soapbox, but it seems i can only view the soapbox, not reply/make new threads...- PR()JECT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites