trav 6834 Posted January 13, 2014 There are 6 players on your team. The team decides who they want to play. You can't sub throughout the game. Whoever you start with, is the team you're playing with on that map You can sub out people in between maps. 1 Jodas reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piero 2272 Posted January 13, 2014 Change the names already Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dylan 558 Posted January 13, 2014 If you lose fail don't cri Temp team name DestroyIAF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeauutifulChaos 902 Posted January 13, 2014 But seriously now the teams have to determine who has to be the sub and not get to play. Couldn't we just have made a team out of the subs? if we took one from each team we could have 2 extra teams with only two subs instead of a sub on each team.<br /><br />This I understand completely. It is a bit unfair. You enter the tournament because you want to play, but then if the team that picks you decides you are the weakest player, you get kicked to the sidelines. Its kind of crappy to be honest. (No offense to my team, you guys are all really chill, but it does kinda stink.) I feel like what should have happened is that a bunch of people volunteer to be subs. And if a team can't find a sub well, sucks to be them, they're the ones who picked a player who can't commit. Its not fair to "punish" people who actually are committed and want to play just because in prior tournis people picked teammates who bailed. 1 HalfEatenCookie reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TurtleFrenzy 2612 Posted January 13, 2014 <br /><br />This I understand completely. It is a bit unfair. You enter the tournament because you want to play, but then if the team that picks you decides you are the weakest player, you get kicked to the sidelines. Its kind of crappy to be honest. (No offense to my team, you guys are all really chill, but it does kinda stink.) I feel like what should have happened is that a bunch of people volunteer to be subs. And if a team can't find a sub well, sucks to be them, they're the ones who picked a player who can't commit. Its not fair to "punish" people who actually are committed and want to play just because in prior tournis people picked teammates who bailed.I agree, partially. In principal, this point is true. However, from what we saw last time, almost all of the teams had one person (if not more) missing either on time or for the duration of the entire match. This was why the 6man team system was thought of. I wouldn't have an issue with people who registered taking part as a sub if a team needed so, but with the amount of people who registered, the amount of teams that would need subs would be greater than the amount of available subs if we created additional teams for the 6th members of each time.It's kind of a situation where someone has to get the shaft at the expense of someone else's punctuality because realistically not everyone would be able to be appeased while still having fair 5 on 5 games. Ideally, yes. From what we saw last tournament, no. If the system develops into a better-made more well-planned process in which individual teams can plan a suitable time for every member, then sure. 1 splewis reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Knox 1470 Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) if you don't want to warm up seats on the bench, get better (justsaying) Edited January 13, 2014 by Knox Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeauutifulChaos 902 Posted January 13, 2014 if you don't want to warm up seats on the bench, get better<br /><br />(justsaying)<br /><br />This is unfair. I'm not terrible. Hell, I wouldn't even say I'm bad. Just because some players don't meet their teams rank doesn't mean they are bad. Its just they are simply the lower rank so it would be obvious to not play them. That's what's unfair. And I'm sure all the other people who get subbed will agree. They aren't bad players, just unfortunate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HalfEatenCookie 63 Posted January 13, 2014 I agree, i don't like how the 6th man could potentially never play in a match. This tourney still needs more thinking through no offence at all to the staff running this event I thank you greatly 2 Dylan and BeauutifulChaos reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faded 266 Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) VexerCookie EaterOreoReaperIllogicalMatthew Hope being listed last didn't mean I was picked last...cause I looked at my teams stats and that would be funny if I was picked as "sub." Player - World Ranking % - KDR Vexer - 91.7% - .464Cookie - 26.7% - 1.0486Reaper - 49.8% - .9003Oreo - 56% - .6809Illogical - 69.7% - .7907Matthew - 23.4% - 1.235 Might have to kick our captain from the line-up..... Edited January 13, 2014 by Matthew 2 Dylan and HalfEatenCookie reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sketchmaticx 3170 Posted January 13, 2014 subs aren't there to be a beast. they're there for if your team needs a player to play for someone sitting out from the "main" 5. tristan didn't want what happened last time with just random subs subbing in for teams. also, subs should be able to sub in at half time. 2 HalfEatenCookie and Jiyeon reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jiyeon 369 Posted January 13, 2014 Hope being listed last didn't mean I was picked last...cause I looked at my teams stats and that would be funny if I was picked as "sub." Player - World Ranking % - KDR Vexer - 91.7% - .464Cookie - 26.7% - 1.0486Reaper - 49.8% - .9003Oreo - 56% - .6809Illogical - 69.7% - .7907Matthew - 23.4% - 1.235 Might have to kick our captain from the line-up..... Are these from CS:GO's in-game leaderboards? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faded 266 Posted January 13, 2014 Are these from CS:GO's in-game leaderboards?Yeah. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jiyeon 369 Posted January 13, 2014 Yeah. Well, you shouldn't use this as an indicator of skill then. The CS:GO leaderboards take stats from community comp and comp mm. For example: I occasionally idle on a server that's listed as a competitive server which has led me to magically have 2.7 deaths per round in competitive mode, which isn't even possible. Also, that is not a KDR, it's a kill per round. Not saying you aren't better than the people listed, just saying if they've done the same things I have (such as idle in a comp server, or play a community comp server), there's a good chance those stats are poop. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kordless 429 Posted January 13, 2014 <br /><br />This is unfair. I'm not terrible. Hell, I wouldn't even say I'm bad. Just because some players don't meet their teams rank doesn't mean they are bad. Its just they are simply the lower rank so it would be obvious to not play them. That's what's unfair. And I'm sure all the other people who get subbed will agree. They aren't bad players, just unfortunate.You're a beast with the awp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faded 266 Posted January 13, 2014 Well, you shouldn't use this as an indicator of skill then. The CS:GO leaderboards take stats from community comp and comp mm. For example: I occasionally idle on a server that's listed as a competitive server which has led me to magically have 2.7 deaths per round in competitive mode, which isn't even possible. Also, that is not a KDR, it's a kill per round. Not saying you aren't better than the people listed, just saying if they've done the same things I have (such as idle in a comp server, or play a community comp server), there's a good chance those stats are poop. Ya I see the kills/deaths per rounds, but there is also a KDR leaderboard, but ya I'm praying those stats are mostly crappy representations of the skills level.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jiyeon 369 Posted January 13, 2014 Oh I didn't see the kdr part, but yeah, like I said, it's botched because it combines comp mm + community comp which is really dumb. 1 Kordless reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jiyeon 369 Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) Double post yolo but I agree with this: also, subs should be able to sub in at half time. Edited January 13, 2014 by Tristan. nothing changed just me being a dumbass 1 Kordless reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tristan. 1053 Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) Double post yolo but I agree with this: also, subs should be able to sub in at half time.This might be changed shortly. Edited January 13, 2014 by Tristan. 1 HalfEatenCookie reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeauutifulChaos 902 Posted January 13, 2014 You're a beast with the awp.Thank you. :3 1 Kordless reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Knox 1470 Posted January 14, 2014 <br /><br />This is unfair. I'm not terrible. Hell, I wouldn't even say I'm bad. Just because some players don't meet their teams rank doesn't mean they are bad. Its just they are simply the lower rank so it would be obvious to not play them. That's what's unfair. And I'm sure all the other people who get subbed will agree. They aren't bad players, just unfortunate.It's unfortunate that 90% of the community have never once in their life played above valve matchmaking for csgo. I understand that it's a casual tournament but prizes are being offered, people are going to want to win them. It's not like this is church teeball league where everyone gets their turn to bat. So, I'm standing by my earlier statement. If you want to be one of the players picked for something that people are legitimately going to try and do their best to win in, practice more, get better. If you think it's so unfair and you can't stand it, don't sign up for the events. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeauutifulChaos 902 Posted January 14, 2014 It's unfortunate that 90% of the community have never once in their life played above valve matchmaking for csgo. I understand that it's a casual tournament but prizes are being offered, people are going to want to win them. It's not like this is church teeball league where everyone gets their turn to bat. So, I'm standing by my earlier statement. If you want to be one of the players picked for something that people are legitimately going to try and do their best to win in, practice more, get better. If you think it's so unfair and you can't stand it, don't sign up for the events.You are missing the point completely, dude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HalfEatenCookie 63 Posted January 14, 2014 It's unfortunate that 90% of the community have never once in their life played above valve matchmaking for csgo. I understand that it's a casual tournament but prizes are being offered, people are going to want to win them. It's not like this is church teeball league where everyone gets their turn to bat. So, I'm standing by my earlier statement. If you want to be one of the players picked for something that people are legitimately going to try and do their best to win in, practice more, get better. If you think it's so unfair and you can't stand it, don't sign up for the events. You are missing the point completely, dude. ^^^ Also many people said that they would play in this tourney without any prizes. Idgaf about the prizes I am just glad to play, but now theres people that signed up for possibly the same reason as me (to play) and might not get subbed in at all. Doesn't matter how good they are most of these events sG has are for everyone and everyone is able to take part in however people signed up to this tourney but it could just be a waste for them... Knox not everyone is as pro as you dawg 2 Illogical and BeauutifulChaos reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeauutifulChaos 902 Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) ^^^ Also many people said that they would play in this tourney without any prizes. Idgaf about the prizes I am just glad to play, but now theres people that signed up for possibly the same reason as me (to play) and might not get subbed in at all. Doesn't matter how good they are most of these events sG has are for everyone and everyone is able to take part in however people signed up to this tourney but it could just be a waste for them... Knox not everyone is as pro as you dawgQFT. Thank you. Wasn't sure if I wanted to waste my time trying to explain. >.< Point is: Doesn't matter how good or bad anyone is. A lot of people who signed up to play are going to get benched. Meh. Edited January 14, 2014 by BeauutifulChaos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carl Sagan 2577 Posted January 14, 2014 bc unhappy with team ragequitsteam unhappy with bc, still ragequits i dont understand strive to be humble; lest you stumble Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeauutifulChaos 902 Posted January 14, 2014 I am not rage quitting at all. I like my team. They are nice and chill. And haven't even indefinitely said that they are benching me, I am just assuming so. I am just pointing out what I think can be improved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites