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Howard Dean

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Its one thing when you have a leader who doesnt listen, its another when you have one who doesnt care. All of the jc's know that cc90 has been a problem phoenix2 brushes it off so what if hes a old member its the fact that he starts so must shit and you dont care. And i see that you havent cared all along which is just complete BS ever since these forums got restarted ive been saving shit cc90 says that he ethier starts or implies to be a flame war. http://www.undeadvengeance.com/forums/inde...=3201&st=20

http://www.undeadvengeance.com/forums/inde...?showtopic=2342

http://www.undeadvengeance.com/forums/inde...?showtopic=1471

http://www.undeadvengeance.com/forums/inde...=4553&st=20

http://www.undeadvengeance.com/forums/inde...ic=4477&hl=

http://www.undeadvengeance.com/forums/inde...?showtopic=4504

http://www.undeadvengeance.com/forums/inde...?showtopic=3806

http://www.undeadvengeance.com/forums/inde...=all&st=450

When i talk to you in xfire you merely brush it off and dont even care.

I really hope this clan does well i do. its just the shit 1 member does and how much our leader doesnt care. I will miss almost all of you and i wish the best to all of you.

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:o! :o! :o! !O: !O: !O:

Ftl, that really sucks your leaving. I hopes all that isn't true, and we could always still pwn people.

BYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

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Holy shit deja vu. This has all happened before. Even FPS bob saying BBBBYYAAAHHHHHH!!!

now a whole lot of other people are going to do it. You just wait and see.

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Its one thing when you have a leader who doesnt listen, its another when you have one who doesnt care. All of the jc's know that cc90 has been a problem phoenix2 brushes it off so what if hes a old member its the fact that he starts so must shit and you dont care. And i see that you havent cared all along which is just complete BS ever since these forums got restarted ive been saving shit cc90 says that he ethier starts or implies to be a flame war. http://www.undeadvengeance.com/forums/inde...=3201&st=20

http://www.undeadvengeance.com/forums/inde...?showtopic=2342

http://www.undeadvengeance.com/forums/inde...?showtopic=1471

http://www.undeadvengeance.com/forums/inde...=4553&st=20

http://www.undeadvengeance.com/forums/inde...ic=4477&hl=

http://www.undeadvengeance.com/forums/inde...?showtopic=4504

http://www.undeadvengeance.com/forums/inde...?showtopic=3806

http://www.undeadvengeance.com/forums/inde...=all&st=450

When i talk to you in xfire you merely brush it off and dont even care.

I really hope this clan does well i do. its just the shit 1 member does and how much our leader doesnt care. I will miss almost all of you and i wish the best to all of you.

You speak for all them? Holy shit, arent you popular.

Lets get down to the facts, You are a nobody. Your opinions are worth nothing, I do not care for, or wish for you to stay, Nor would I care if you did.

You constantly blame me for your problems, when you start shit with me in the first place.

How about when you come on vent and swear at me for no reason? is that my fault? no. Or wait, how about when you flame me in random topics?

I don't know who you are, and could care less.

By the way little boy, read the dates on those threads.

Good riddance, our clan just got much better.

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Good riddance. We use to be cool, but now you start saying random bullshit to me. You are a ass.

-Secure

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Howard don't leave us :( I think you, P2, and cc90 just need to go into vent and have a good conversation. P2 is a good leader and i'm sure that he is not just brushing it off, he is a very busy guy so it's hard for him to take attention to everybodies problems :P

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Howard don't leave us :( I think you, P2, and cc90 just need to go into vent and have a good conversation. P2 is a good leader and i'm sure that he is not just brushing it off, he is a very busy guy so it's hard for him to take attention to everybodies problems :P

be quiet woman the men are talking

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Fucking good riddance. I am am 100% with CC90 on this. Not once has he started a topic to flame sombody except on the Zeus case, all he ever does, like myself, is stick up for himself when attacked. All you people need to realise, CC90 isn't somebody who takes shit thrown at him lying down. I hated him when I first joined this clan back in February, now I think the guy is awesome. Get to know him, talk to him, don't just fucking flame him and blame him for your troubles. I am glad Howards leaving, I too got nothing but prejudice and racist comments thrown at me from him!

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Honestly, I have to agree with Howard here. He sits and minds his own business and you sit there and constantly harass him. He has provided proof to me time and time again. CC90, when you make us lose a member you make me very unhappy and I am not very happy about this. We need to talk.

One thing though, Howard, you don't know how to block people? And at least you kept it to PM's CC90. I respect that, as you weren't making the community look bad thru private conversations. I don't like when people air shit out on the forums.

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Good point, but this reflects what CC90 said, people harass him, he reacts, he gets in trouble? Its not at all fair Bios, yea its shit that we loosing somebody. BTW Howard I didn't mean what I said above, we were 'ok' friends. But all this shit is CC90 reacting, not him starting anything.

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My biggest beef here is this. I have learned to hold my tongue when it comes to CC90. So why can't you learn to hold yours? Why should everyone else have to shut up when after about the 15th person having issues with you, you still can't keep your mouth shut. So why should everyone else have to shut up but it's OK for you?

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Well being in this clan for only a short time, I don't really know whats going on. But by reading these forums I'd have to agree with you 100% bios. If so many people have been complaining over the same person, then obviously this is a problem and should be discussed. Howard sad to see you leave :(

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Fox its not like that though really is it? It all adds up to him, because there are so many people constantly harassing him, look back in past arguments and see how many have actually started with him. I have learned to keep my mouth shut, buts its not easy when its constant.

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Honestly, I have to agree with Howard here. He sits and minds his own business and you sit there and constantly harass him. He has provided proof to me time and time again. CC90, when you make us lose a member you make me very unhappy and I am not very happy about this. We need to talk.

One thing though, Howard, you don't know how to block people? And at least you kept it to PM's CC90. I respect that, as you weren't making the community look bad thru private conversations. I don't like when people air shit out on the forums.

Actually Bios, Like I said, im not the one who starts this, and when you say "He sits and minds his own business and you sit there and constantly harass him." I do NOT talk to him, he talks to me. When im talking to someone in vent he comes in and goes "hehahadhfsdf cc90 yur a fag", and in topics he will randomly comment on me with verbal insults.

Not once have I addressed him before he addressed me.

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Right...Howerd dean was one of my best friends in the clan... And this has pissed me off that he is leaving because of 1 member... From now on if you have a problem witha member talk to me in vent or on xfire (uvlordyoda) and i will take it with great fource because i dont want people leaving because of cirtan members.

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Fox its not like that though really is it? It all adds up to him, because there are so many people constantly harassing him, look back in past arguments and see how many have actually started with him. I have learned to keep my mouth shut, buts its not easy when its constant.

Well, maybe he shouldn't make himself look like a idiot by parading his Nazi shit everywhere. He knows that it's antagonistic and he does it anyways. Why? Well, CC90 wants the attention, and he enjoys the drama. Why have all these problems revolved around him Venom? Although I have no problem with CC90, I do acknowledge that he antagonizes everyone. In fact, he told me to do something the other day. He pissed me off so I told him to go fuck himself.

IMO, if people harass or piss off CC90 it's his own fault. I refrain back to my point a long time ago about this not being a forum about politics and how it is a CS:S forum and it's no place to air out your highly offensive beliefs. Whether he likes it or not, many people hate Nazis. Many peoples' family and friends were killed or mutilated by the war they started and it's a very upsetting issue for some. CC90, as well informed as he is, still can't grip the reality of war because of the level of his maturity. I know some of the horrific things that come out of war. I know it's nothing like some people make it out to be.

CC90, to finally address your concerns, I usually don't care when you report someone or tell me to kick someone out of the clan. Why? Well I know how you ferment shit and always add fuel to a fire. If you want me to actually take you seriously then you should start acting like an adult and start understanding that I will judge you based on your maturity and credibility. As far as I'm concerned, you can act however the hell you want. Just don't bother other members, and don't encourage people to leave the clan. Whether he started it or not, why can't you finally take the high road FOR ONCE, and stop firing back? You always tell everyone else to stop, take your own advice. Grow up and stop listening when people say stupid shit to you. If you can't stop yourself from retaliating, then I won't help you.

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We'll talk on vent later, im busy, and ill edit this post with a reply also.

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