Gay Rights?

[Guest formerlyaeth]

yes

[Guest formerlyaeth]

wait who needs to calm down

bro its debate

we debate

if you dont know what that is

go take it as a class

im sure your high school has it as an elective

[EQUAL_IBRIUM 0]

lol I think you're the one that needs to calm down.

I'm perfectly calm dude . Caps was mean't for re-enactments .

But i am pretty sure that runs through people's mind every time they hear the word gay *the homophobic ones* .

[Formerly known as Karma 0]

In my opinion love is love . If you say "OMG GAYS TAKE IT UP THE ASS THATS SO GROSS" grow the fuck up and take your childish point of view somewhere else .

Didn't seem so calm to me. That's not how you debate things maturely, by telling people who don't believe what you believe to gtfo.

[apathy 1]

I think he is saying that people need to think of the visitors to this community before they post

[Formerly known as Karma 0]

Okay, I failed there. Didn't read the entire thing.

Not so awesome!?

[McLovin 0]

What if two non religious want to get married. Why should they? Marriage isn't about pleasing a religion, if it was, everyone who was a couple would be some sort of Catholic, Jew, or Christian.

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tl;dr

[hairynipon 20]

Hey guys what did I miss?

[UnknownLegend 5480]

It would appear my wall of text did indeed crit zeus for 9000. I win.

[apathy 1]

I think he gave up because his arguments were fail.

[EQUAL_IBRIUM 0]

Didn't seem so calm to me. That's not how you debate things maturely, by telling people who don't believe what you believe to gtfo.

Can you read again ? I'm not telling people to think how i think, i'm telling them to have some maturity .

Just how people ( maybe you ) said eww girl cooties when you were little . Now you wouldn't say that because you are more mature than you were when you were 5 .

[Formerly known as Karma 0]

Actually, I never once said "eww girl cooties" when I was little. I was a pretty open minded child.

Anyways, we weren't being immature. Maybe someone in the first billion pages was, I don't know. I didn't read the entire thing.

[EQUAL_IBRIUM 0]

Actually, I never once said "eww girl cooties" when I was little. I was a pretty open minded child.

Anyways, we weren't being immature. Maybe someone in the first billion pages was, I don't know. I didn't read the entire thing.

I was trying to direct it to the people who base their opinion on the way they perform intercourse .

[UnknownLegend 5480]

Can you read again ? I'm not telling people to think how i think, i'm telling them to have some maturity .

Just how people ( maybe you ) said eww girl cooties when you were little . Now you wouldn't say that because you are more mature than you were when you were 5 .

Sorry Karma, gonna agree with Equilibrium; he's not telling people who disagree with him to get the fuck out, he's telling the bigots that they need to grow up and learn to tolerate people different from them.

CC90 wasn't a bitch when he wasn't preaching his Nazi ideals; what Equilibrium is asking, I believe, is just some semblance of tolerance on the forums. Examples of particularly distasteful remarks would be Kelso's "Hang em all" and Switchblades's "All gay people deserve to be insulted."

Saying homophobic shit used to be against the rules, but we got lax in issuing infractions for it.

[EQUAL_IBRIUM 0]

Sorry Karma, gonna agree with Equilibrium; he's not telling people who disagree with him to get the fuck out, he's telling the bigots that they need to grow up and learn to tolerate people different from them.

CC90 wasn't a bitch when he wasn't preaching his Nazi ideals; what Equilibrium is asking, I believe, is just some semblance of tolerance on the forums. Examples of particularly distasteful remarks would be Kelso's "Hang em all" and Switchblades's "All gay people deserve to be insulted."

Saying homophobic shit used to be against the rules, but we got lax in issuing infractions for it.

Thank you

[Formerly known as Karma 0]

Yea, I don't think it'll happen though. Not to be pessimistic but we will always have those people around.

[EQUAL_IBRIUM 0]

Yea, I don't think it'll happen though. Not to be pessimistic but we will always have those people around.

Yeah , but we can still keep it to a minimum .

[Formerly known as Karma 0]

Good luck trying lol.

[UnknownLegend 5480]

Yea, I don't think it'll happen though.

Nope, not a chance.

In response to Equilibrium, some of the gay members on the forums have either (a) grown thicker skin or (b) learned to cope with it. The majority of the forum members are teenage males age 13-22, so asking for maturity and tolerance is kind of a waste of breath. There are a few of us who us who aren't bigots, but regardless of that you're going to see a lot of hate here, intended or unintended.

[apathy 1]

Nope, not a chance.

In response to Equilibrium, some of the gay members on the forums have either (a) grown thicker skin or (b) learned to cope with it. The majority of the forum members are teenage males age 13-22, so asking for maturity and tolerance is kind of a waste of breath. There are a few of us who us who aren't bigots, but regardless of that you're going to see a lot of hate here, intended or unintended.

Aka beefwipe

[Formerly known as Karma 0]

Aka beefwipe

My thoughts exactly.

Ps: Junzou = right.

[UnknownLegend 5480]

Aka beefwipe

My thoughts exactly.

These.

In before another poem from beefwipe.

[EQUAL_IBRIUM 0]

Good luck trying lol.

Well , i'm not saying the whole world , i'm just saying this community .

I'm not trying to be a freedom writer here , all i'm saying is that homophobic threads or posts should be kept to a minimum because of all the places this should be one of the last places people have to deal with their "differences" compared to others, weather it's race or sexuality .

[Formerly known as Karma 0]

Well , i'm not saying the whole world , i'm just saying this community .

I'm not trying to be a freedom writer here , all i'm saying is that homophobic threads or posts should be kept to a minimum because of all the places this should be one of the last places people have to deal with their "differences" compared to others, weather it's race or sexuality .

And, agian, I say: Good luck trying. It's not going to happen. Dude, you've made how many posts? Once you're here long enough, you'll understand.

[UnknownLegend 5480]

Well , i'm not saying the whole world , i'm just saying this community .

I'm not trying to be a freedom writer here , all i'm saying is that homophobic threads or posts should be kept to a minimum because of all the places this should be one of the last places people have to deal with their "differences" compared to others, weather it's race or sexuality .

This is a gaming forum; if you haven't had to deal with your differences in one of the games that the forum members play, then I would be VERY surprised.

Again, forum member age ranges from 13-22 with a handful of outliers. A for effort, but seriously save yourself the trouble of trying. I tried to clean the forums up a bit too, and that didn't work out well, despite the fact that I was one of the people making the rules for a year.