Guest formerlyaeth Posted June 15, 2009 The ever so "infamous" Sigil Of Baphomet.As I'm sure a few of you know, I am a "Satanist". However, as I'm also sure a lot of you think, I do not worship Satan as the Bible portrays him. Get ready for a bit of copy paste from Wikipedia, as I don't want to type it all out.LaVeyan Satanism is a religion founded in 1966 by Anton Szandor LaVey. Its teachings are based on individualism, self-indulgence, and "eye for an eye" morality, also drawing from the rituals and ceremonies of occultist Aleister Crowley. Employing Crowley's terminology, its adherents define Satanism as a "Left-Hand Path" religion, rejecting traditional "Right-Hand Path" religions such as Christianity for their perceived denial of life and emphasis on guilt and abstinence. Unlike Theistic Satanism, LaVeyan Satanism does not focus on literally worshiping Satan, but, rather uses "Satan" as a symbol of carnality and earthly values, of man's inherent natureMore quotes from wikipedia. Bear with me now.Fundamental individualismSatanism is often mistaken as being a religion that encourages cruelty and irresponsible behaviour, but LaVey's brand is very different. Central is the idea that an individual must enforce their own meaning on life and rise above the perceived conformity of the masses. The Satanist is seen as equivalent to Friedrich Nietzsche's Ãœbermensch; LaVey claimed "Satanists are born, not made" and that "[satanists] have a disease called independence that needs to be recognized just like alcoholism." There are progressive and libertarian elements here; diversity is encouraged, everyone is expected to discover his own sexuality, chart his own personality, and decide their own ambitions in life. In this stress on individuality, Satanism is considered a "Left-Hand Path" religion.Satanism and self-transformationAdherents to "life-denying" religions are often regarded as self-abnegating in their devotion to their own servility. LaVey's Satanic creed viewed religion as promoting an impersonal relationship with what the churches referred to as "God". Satanism was presented as an opportunity to self-identify with one's own concept of God. Great attention was paid to details gleaned from Noir films like White Heat and The Big Sleep in creating one's ideal Self from deliberately invoked forms. Satanism encourages a follower of the religion to grow throughout their life as they see fit.Law of SatanismLex talionis, the Law of Retaliation (lex/legis f. nom, "law" and talio/talionis f. gen, "retaliation, returning like unto like") informed much of LaVey's Satanic formulation. "Do unto others as they do unto you" supplanted the directive to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you", so that you are only to give compassion and sympathy to those who deserve it. It is a reactive rule, compared with the Christian proactive rule; by the rule, love, compassion, and sympathy are not to be wasted upon "ingrates"; these are to be given only to those who the practitioner feels deserves them. The religion of Satanism, as LaVey espouses it, is centered almost exclusively upon the concept of being one's own god; as such, values and attachments such as love, affection, and caring, along with opposing concepts such as hate and wrath, are to be disseminated at the discretion of the individual Satanist. As such, it is the individual's responsibility (and not that of a god, or the fault of any devil) to both justify and accept the consequences of their actions. LaVey felt that intelligent and strong people spent too much time caring for psychic vampires—weak individuals who always demanded attention and care, yet would never give any back. He taught that Satanists should strive to remove themselves as much as possible from such people in order to live in accordance to their instincts and individual wills.The Nine Satanic StatementsSatan represents indulgence instead of abstinence.Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams.Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit.Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates.Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek.Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires.Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all.Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification.Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years.The Eleven Satanic Rules of the EarthDo not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.When in another’s lair, show them respect or else do not go there.If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat them cruelly and without mercy.Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.Do not take that which does not belong to you, unless it is a burden to the other person and they cry out to be relieved.Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.Do not harm little children.Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask them to stop. If they do not stop, destroy them. The Nine Satanic SinsStupidity — The top of the list for Satanic Sins. The Cardinal Sin of Satanism. It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity. It depends on people going along with whatever they are told. The media promotes a cultivated stupidity as a posture that is not only acceptable but laudable. Satanists must learn to see through the tricks and cannot afford to be stupid.Pretentiousness — Empty posturing can be most irritating and isn’t applying the cardinal rules of Lesser Magic. This is on equal footing with stupidity for what keeps the money in circulation these days. Everyone’s made to feel like a big shot, whether they can come up with the goods or not.Solipsism — Projecting your reactions, responses, and sensibilities onto someone who is probably far less attuned than you are can be very dangerous for Satanists. It is the mistake of expecting people to give you the same consideration, courtesy and respect that you naturally give them. They won’t. Instead, Satanists must strive to apply the dictum of “Do unto others as they do unto you.” It’s work for most of us, and requires constant vigilance, lest you slip into a comfortable illusion of everyone being like you. As it has been said, certain utopias would be ideal in a nation of philosophers, but unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, from a Machiavellian standpoint) we are far from that point.Self-deceit — It’s in the “Nine Satanic Statements”, but deserves to be repeated here. It is another cardinal sin. We must not pay homage to any of the sacred cows presented to us, including the roles we are expected to play ourselves. The only time self-deceit should be entered into is when it’s fun, and with awareness. But then, it’s not self-deceit!Herd Conformity — That’s obvious from a Satanic stance. It’s all right to conform to a person’s wishes, if it ultimately benefits you. But only fools follow along with the herd, letting an impersonal entity dictate to you. The key is to choose a master wisely, instead of being enslaved by the whims of the many.Lack of perspective — Again, this one can lead to a lot of pain for a Satanist. You must never lose sight of who and what you are, and what a threat you can be, by your very existence. We are making history right now, every day. Always keep the wider historical and social picture in mind. That is an important key to both Lesser and Greater Magic. See the patterns and fit things together as you want the pieces to fall into place. Do not be swayed by herd constraints: Know that you are working on another level entirely from the rest of the world.Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies — Be aware that this is one of the keys to brainwashing people into accepting something new and different, when in reality it’s something that was once widely accepted but is now presented in a new package. We are expected to rave about the genius of the creator and forget the original. This makes for a disposable society.Counterproductive Pride — That first word is important. Pride is great up to the point you begin to throw out the baby with the bathwater. The rule of Satanism is: If it works for you, great. When it stops working for you, when you’ve painted yourself into a corner and the only way out is to say, "I’m sorry, I made a mistake, I wish we could compromise somehow," then do it.Lack of Aesthetics — This is the physical application of the Balance Factor. Aesthetics is important in Lesser Magic and should be cultivated. It is obvious that no one can collect any money off classical standards of beauty and form most of the time, so they are discouraged in a consumer society; but an eye for beauty, for balance, is an essential Satanic tool and must be applied for greatest magical effectiveness. It’s not what’s supposed to be pleasing: It’s what is. Aesthetics is a personal thing, reflective of one’s own nature, but there are universally pleasing and harmonious configurations that should not be denied.< traditional satanist.EDIT: I don't know if it would have helped you but I'm gonna throw some stuff you missed.LaVeyan Satanists don't worship a deity or being known in the Christian belief as Satan, but rather see themselves as their only god in a sense that they are the only ones who can choose what they are and how they go through life.The name of the religion was resolved of the nature of the fact that Christianity is about hindrance to the self and being chaste. Where as Satanism is about pleasing of the self and indulgences.Hopefully you've at least skimmed through a bit of it, and understand the basics of it.If you wish to learn more about it, I suggest buying the Satanic Bible, you can probably find it at your local Barnes N Nobles for about 10-15 dollars. The coffee shops in Barnes N Nobles are also great places to read without actually BUYING the book. Or you could ask me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrandMrsTrinh 0 Posted June 15, 2009 I have thoughts about this. I don't really approve but, your life is your life. I wish you peace and happiness where ever you can find it. I am however a Christian, but not the crazy kind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest formerlyaeth Posted June 15, 2009 As long as you aren't bothering me, you're cool with me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shippo 0 Posted June 15, 2009 So, If I come into your lair your going to destroy me? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clay 24 Posted June 15, 2009 I'm an atheist, so it's not even like I believe in Satan. But more power to you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairynipon 20 Posted June 15, 2009 I'm a nihilist its my excuse not to care Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest formerlyaeth Posted June 15, 2009 So, If I come into your lair your going to destroy me?I live in a cave, I have bombs set up and a detonation hidden in my pants. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fohacidal Posted June 15, 2009 HOLY SHIT A SATANIST IM CALLING THE VATICAN WTF BOOOMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard Dean 2502 Posted June 15, 2009 Foha... that is fail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest formerlyaeth Posted June 15, 2009 me and the pope are best friendswe eat babies together and rape children Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackStone 66 Posted June 16, 2009 Do not harm little children.Bad Tristan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
O.G. 93 Posted June 16, 2009 I actually have a friend who is a LaVeyan. She has been for some time. I honestly think that it is an interesting way of seeing things and I have thought about it before. My friend says "Nice to hear another, we are kinda rare." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest formerlyaeth Posted June 16, 2009 I actually have a friend who is a LaVeyan. She has been for some time. I honestly think that it is an interesting way of seeing things and I have thought about it before. My friend says "Nice to hear another, we are kinda rare."Awesome. I've never met another person in real life who is an actual LaVeyan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest formerlyaeth Posted June 16, 2009 Bad Tristan.I think this song is appropriate for this situation[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z4-GURMTgA[/ame] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BAZ8771 2 Posted June 16, 2009 FUCK YOU GOD IS REAL DONT COME ON TO MY FORUMS AND SPEW YOUR BLASPHEMY!!! WHEN YOU MEET THE REAL SATAN YOU WILL BE BURNING IN HELL *RAGE**RAGE**RAGE**RAGE**RAGE**RAGE**RAGE**RAGE**RAGE**RAGE*lol, jk... just trollin' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest formerlyaeth Posted June 16, 2009 AND THEY WERE LIKEYOU BE TROLLINAND I WAS LIKEI AM NOT TROLLINI AM BOXXY Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelso 4 Posted June 16, 2009 I can respect Satanism. Seems human. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kollabo 2 Posted June 16, 2009 Hm. Do you do anything odd.. like sacrifice, or do any weird voodoo shit? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest formerlyaeth Posted June 16, 2009 Hm. Do you do anything odd.. like sacrifice, or do any weird voodoo shit?Not personally, but there are certain things that we can do to release any emotions blocking us from having a nice day. ie.. voodoo dolls and curses Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest formerlyaeth Posted June 16, 2009 They aren't standardized either. This guy from a forum just listens to musicFucking hell. A girl I was hitting on since a few months back got stolen right under my nose when I was this || close to getting her, by my friend (who is studying to become a priest) I have known since we were 5 years old. So tonight I'm feeling a bit blasphemous. Since I don't have a private ritual chamber I'm going to vent some anger through various anti-christian lyrics. I'm open for suggestions on other ways of venting some anger and frustration. Besides, we could use a spark in here.darklyrics.com posted:Aeon - BiblewhoreI laugh at you bible whoresSlave bastards you areLiving a lie under godI laugh at your Jesus ChristOpen your eyesHe looks so pathetic weak nailed to his crossLike zombies you enter the churchOne after one in a lineTo receive what the priest has in mindFeeding a story of liesI laugh at you holy priestWith your church you will dieFire devour your homeI will laugh when I see you deadFlames melting your skinSmell of VictoryLike zombies you enter the churchOne after one in a lineTo receive what the priest has in mindFeeding a story of liesPriest howling in church aboutSomething they think they know soMuch about bible whoresSatisfied people they exit the churchLiving a lie under godGod and his bible will mess up yourHead like a priest you will suckJesus cockLive under Satan and live as you wantOr forever live as bible whoresI laugh when I see you prayHow silly you lookThe candles you light I blow outI laugh when I hear you singThose songs for your godNo one will ever save youLike zombies you enter the churchOne after one in a lineTo receive what the priest has in mindFeeding a story of liesPriest howling in church aboutSomething they think they know soMuch about bible whoresSatisfied people they exit the churchLiving a lie under godGod and his bible will mess up yourHead like a priest you will suckJesus cockLive under Satan and live as you wantOr forever live as bible whoresGod's bible whoresI laugh at them allToo blind to see... RealityI laugh at you bible whoresSlave bastards you areLiving a lie under godI laugh at your Jesus ChristOpen your eyesHe looks so pathetic weak nailed to his crossLike zombies you enter the churchOne after one in a lineTo receive what the priest has in mindFeeding a story of liesPriest howling in church aboutSomething they think they know soMuch about bible whoresSatisfied people they exit the churchLiving a lie under godGod and his bible will mess up yourHead like a priest you will suckJesus cockLive under Satan and live as you wantOr forever live as bible whoresGod's bible whoresFive dollar whoresToo blind to see... RealityAeon - I hate your existanceYou invoke your godYou kneel before the crucifixPraying loudA thousand prays that don't existIt makes me sickWhen you caress that crossWearing it around your neckMy fingers itchWant to break your fucking neckI would love to kill youTaste the fist of hellAwaits you does MiseryDead fucking the dead in the house of godBorn a Christian you were already dead from the startLike a parasite you feed from othersSuffering I will deliver to youStand in my way and I will give you some painLike you never have felt it beforeI hate your existenceI hate your existenceI hate your existenceI hate your existenceAeon - God gives head in heavenYou pray to god every night when you are in bedYou want your god to come and take your pain awayYour Christian god will always say that he is your friendBut I know for fact that all he wants is to give your headJoin your fagot godChsistian fagot raceWith open mouth he kneelsReady to give headGod gives head in heavenGod gives head in heavenHe will swallow it allYour filthy Christian seedIt ain't no big surpriseThis is how your god is likeGod gives head in heavenGod gives head in heavenForced to fuck your godHe wants it up his assHeaven is for fagotsChristian paradiseNow your god wants bloodHe takes you from behindChristian assholes bleedHoly paradiseHere's an acoustic version on the song 'God gives head' if anyone is interested. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fohacidal Posted June 16, 2009 I feel like this is a troll thread Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest formerlyaeth Posted June 16, 2009 I feel like this is a troll threaduhhh. wat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dodenfurwotan 0 Posted June 16, 2009 < traditional satanist.EDIT: I don't know if it would have helped you but I'm gonna throw some stuff you missed.LaVeyan Satanists don't worship a deity or being known in the Christian belief as Satan, but rather see themselves as their only god in a sense that they are the only ones who can choose what they are and how they go through life.The name of the religion was resolved of the nature of the fact that Christianity is about hindrance to the self and being chaste. Where as Satanism is about pleasing of the self and indulgences. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest formerlyaeth Posted June 16, 2009 < traditional satanist.EDIT: I don't know if it would have helped you but I'm gonna throw some stuff you missed.LaVeyan Satanists don't worship a deity or being known in the Christian belief as Satan, but rather see themselves as their only god in a sense that they are the only ones who can choose what they are and how they go through life.The name of the religion was resolved of the nature of the fact that Christianity is about hindrance to the self and being chaste. Where as Satanism is about pleasing of the self and indulgences.I thought I put that in there, huh maybe not.Thanks though. I'll edit the first post with your quote. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phoenix 20 Posted June 16, 2009 Hey those are hebrew letters on that symbol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites