Al-Qaeda responsible for London & Glasgow scare/attacks?

[w33D.Ross 2]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Beal @ Aug 9 2007, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

1) An islamic terrorist, by definition, creates terror in the name of religion. What the heck do you think jihad means?

Sorry for the double post.

Jihad is the struggle of good and evil in oneself, struggle in writing, struggle with scholarly, struggle with ones wealth, the the struggle with defending and expanding the islamic state.

jihad does not mean to terrorize, it means to struggle with good and evil. If you knew anything about islamic culture you would know its a religion spread by the sword. they are trying to spread their religion further and to have most of the world as Muslim. does this make them evil? no it doesnt. They are simply following their religious doctrine. they have every right to do just that and "attack our freedom" as bush likes to say. do i agree with it? no of course not. but its their way and not ours.

[Guest cc90z]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (w33D.RoSs @ Aug 10 2007, 04:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Sorry for the double post.

Jihad is the struggle of good and evil in oneself, struggle in writing, struggle with scholarly, struggle with ones wealth, the the struggle with defending and expanding the islamic state.

jihad does not mean to terrorize, it means to struggle with good and evil. If you knew anything about islamic culture you would know its a religion spread by the sword. they are trying to spread their religion further and to have most of the world as Muslim. does this make them evil? no it doesnt. They are simply following their religious doctrine. they have every right to do just that and "attack our freedom" as bush likes to say. do i agree with it? no of course not. but its their way and not ours.

Remove your avatar, it's just going to start trouble.

[w33D.Ross 2]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cc90 @ Aug 10 2007, 01:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Remove your avatar, it's just going to start trouble.

and your avatar and sig dont?

[berserk 1]

Hahaha I kann Deutsches sprechen und Sie kippen. Essen Sie meinen wütenden Stoßesel des Sacks. Warum das I botherd, das diesem mich schreibt, nicht wissen, aber wenn Sie Deutsches oder dieses in einen Übersetzer zu setzen sprechen, dann gebe ich Ihnen meinen Topf Gold!

Roughly translates to:

Hahaha I can speak German and tilt you. Eat my furious impact donkey of the bag. Why, does not know the I botherd, which writes me to this, but if you speak to set German or this into a translator, then I give mean pot gold you!

[Guest cc90z]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (w33D.RoSs @ Aug 10 2007, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

and your avatar and sig dont?

No, it doesnt. Does it have a star of david crossed out?

[w33D.Ross 2]

so you can show your opinion and beliefs even tho it offends me and i havnt said anything about it but the second i show my opinion and belief and it offends you i must remove it. a little biased dont you think.

[Guest cc90z]

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so you can show your opinion and beliefs even tho it offends me and i havnt said anything about it but the second i show my opinion and belief and it offends you i must remove it. a little biased dont you think.

Your avatar is neither, its a statement. So, no, not at all.

[berserk 1]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (w33D.RoSs @ Aug 10 2007, 11:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

so you can show your opinion and beliefs even tho it offends me and i havnt said anything about it but the second i show my opinion and belief and it offends you i must remove it. a little biased dont you think.

Ich muß mit cm auf diesem einverstandenSEIN. Er hat nichts spesificly rassistische twords ein anderes religeon, gerade sein Glaube. So warum erlöschen Sie von Ihrer Weise, Flammen zu beginnen?

[w33D.Ross 2]

there i changed it.

[Guest cc90z]

Oh, I noticed you changed it, but it still is basically the same idea. Why do you have to bash someone elses beliefs while showing yours? Change it to a SOD or something, be creative.

[w33D.Ross 2]

there non offensive. some what creative and shows half of my belief. happy?

[projectmayhem9 8]

1. Apparently the Quran started peaceful (as told by my English teacher).

2. anyone who disagrees cc is a fucktard.

[beal 0]

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cant believe im saying this but cc90 is right. not every terrorist group is doing it for religion.

Correct, which is why I am not discussing non-Jihadists.

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and not every arabic terrorist group is doing it in the name of the Lesser Jihad..

I am not talking about Arabic terrorist groups, I am talking about Islamic terrorist groups.

Arab is an ethnic group. Islam is a religion. By definition, an Islamic terror group commits acts of terror in the name of Islam.

[beal 0]

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Sorry for the double post.

Jihad is the struggle of good and evil in oneself, struggle in writing, struggle with scholarly, struggle with ones wealth, the the struggle with defending and expanding the islamic state.

It means holy struggle to defend or expand the islamic state. Jihadist terrorist groups, often just called jihadists, commit terror in the name of Jihad.

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they have every right to do just that and "attack our freedom" as bush likes to say

And we will hunt them down and kill them, meanwhile turning their societies in to consumerist bastions of western pleasures and temptations until the people are too busy worrying about dressing in fashionable clothes to bother continuing the struggle.

[bios 1]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cc90 @ Aug 10 2007, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Your avatar is neither, its a statement. So, no, not at all.

Honestly CC90, you can't complain about his avatar. You do the same thing, only for the opposite side. So respect his beliefs and he will have to respect yours. Keep it clean guys. And don't let this get out of hand. CC90, you are the moderator here, so you have to be held to a higher standard. If he wants to use that avatar he can. Just like you can use the one you use.

[bios 1]

One more thing. About this whole terrorism subject. The purpose of terrorism is to achieve some political aim. All terrorism is political. Religion is the fassad that they use to control weak minded people.

[beal 0]

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Your avatar is neither, its a statement. So, no, not at all.

Celebrating or idolizing the Nazis is most certainly a statement. You haven't chosen to support just fascism (national socialism) in general. Instead you celebrate nazism specifically--H1tler's vision of fascism, brought about by the persecution and murder of all non-desirables. Even worse, you picked Himmler--the man who organized and oversaw H1tler's final solution--for your avatar. If that isn't a statement in favor of the Holocaust, I don't know what is. Your sig, cool as it may seem to you, tells all J@ws, homosexuals, and disabled that they don't deserve to live.

If you can live with that, so be it.

(words modified because apparently the the J and H words are apparently taboo)

[bios 1]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Beal @ Aug 10 2007, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Celebrating or idolizing the Nazis is most certainly a statement. You haven't chosen to support just fascism (national socialism) in general. Instead you celebrate nazism specifically--(Censored)'s vision of fascism, brought about by the persecution and murder of all non-desirables. Even worse, you picked Himmler--the man who organized and oversaw (Censored)'s final solution--for your avatar. If that isn't a statement in favor of the Holocaust, I don't know what is. Your sig, cool as it may seem to you, tells all (Censored), homosexuals, and disabled that they don't deserve to live.

If you can live with that, so be it.

I would have to agree with his analysis. But it is exactly that. It's based on opinion and everyone is entitled to their own, so be respectful.

[w33D.Ross 2]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Beal @ Aug 10 2007, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Celebrating or idolizing the Nazis is most certainly a statement. You haven't chosen to support just fascism (national socialism) in general. Instead you celebrate nazism specifically--H1tler's vision of fascism, brought about by the persecution and murder of all non-desirables. Even worse, you picked Himmler--the man who organized and oversaw H1tler's final solution--for your avatar. If that isn't a statement in favor of the Holocaust, I don't know what is. Your sig, cool as it may seem to you, tells all J@ws, homosexuals, and disabled that they don't deserve to live.

If you can live with that, so be it.

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dude he doesnt believe in the holocaust. and dont try to arguee just leave him alone, and he'll go away.

[Guest cc90z]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Beal @ Aug 10 2007, 07:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

by the persecution and murder of all non-desirables. Even worse, you picked Himmler--the man who organized and oversaw H1tler's final solution

That is an opinion, the "murdering"... but I won't debate because it has nothing to do with the topic...

To bios: The avatar he currently has is not the one I was complaining about.

[beal 0]

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One more thing. About this whole terrorism subject. The purpose of terrorism is to achieve some political aim. All terrorism is political. Religion is the fassad that they use to control weak minded people.

A few things:

1) Religion and government (and thus politics) in much of the Islamic world are one and the same.

2) I tend to agree with you to a point, and it is really part of the point I already made: our culture, not our bombs, is the real threat to Islamic fundamentalists. Why? The same reason that Galileo was a threat to the Catholic Church 400 years ago. The same reason that modern music and culture is seen as a threat to many Christian fundamentalists today. Our consumerist, immoral, and free culture is both an insult and a threat to the power of the Imams. These are people who hold positions of sometimes absolute power...but only as long as the population believes they do so by divine order.

[Guest Silent Assassin]

To Bios, about your terrorism is about politics thing. I have to dis-agree. A lot of the terrorist groups currently screwing with us today, are men fighting for another man's greed. The same with George Bush, he tells the world he is trying to stop terrorism, but he in him self is causing another form of terrorism. The "innocent" civilians that are being shown as "murdered/slaughtered" are as guilty as the soldier who attacked them.

All of the terrorism stuff, isn't about religion, its about people who aren't happy with their own lives, so as want to force others to suffer the same "selfishness"

I also agree, that the final solution to end this terror once and for all, is to destroy anybody who does not surrender immediately to our terms. If they want to continue to fight, let them, we will hold them back and continue our way of life. Their main goal is to slaughter our way of life, to tear us apart socially and religiously. Many people blame "god" for what is happening, this is what they want. It all started with one man, and it will end with one.

"Strike the Sheppard and the sheep scatter" its the only solution.

And about CC90's spray, yes, he has 100% right to his opinion and can state it in which way he deems fit. If he was boldly saying to people "I love nazism, if you are a (Censored) I want you dead" then yea, in all means make him change it. But he doesn't. So lets leave it be.

But yea, this "terrorism" is all about greed, power and fear.

[w33D.Ross 2]

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I also agree, that the final solution to end this terror once and for all, is to destroy anybody who does not surrender immediately to our terms.

Why does it have to be "our" terms? why cant it be a the UN's terms or their terms, and we pull out.

[Guest Silent Assassin]

By the term "our" I mean for the good of EU, US etc...

Basically, stop or be annihilated

[Guest Pinacolada]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Projectmayhem9 @ Aug 10 2007, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

1. Apparently the Quran started peaceful (as told by my English teacher).

2. anyone who disagrees cc is a fucktard.

No it wasn't. The Koran was result of plagarazing the old testament and texts from the (Censored) faith. Your English teacher is saying Mohammad never said those homicidal and misogynist statements. It was told by Allah that he would protect the original Koran so Muslims can't use that excuse. Your teacher knows best, right..... Gullible kids.

CC90 is putting two and two together and getting 5. Stop living in the WW2 era. There is no civilian resistance in the sense of Poland's 1944 one. Only religious fanatics trying to take control over Iraq and repress it. Just wait till one of these jihadists get their hands on a nuke.