Al-Qaeda responsible for London & Glasgow scare/attacks?

[Nero 0]

As most of you know by now that London and Glasgow have come under attack due to change in government as a clear tatic to scare them out of the middle east. Also I find the London save only a stroke of pure luck because of the drunk being put into the ambulance and one of the drivers saw a smoking car. Then there was the hero cop who disconnected the the line to one of the phones set to blow up one of the cars. Also the Clamper(Tow truck driver) who towed the 2nd car with the bomb away in it.

Glasgow Attack

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287472,00.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19522388/

London Attack

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287454,00.html

[kingarthur 0]

London is a easy target for any terrorist group. London has the most air traffic in the world litteraly you can't go many places cheaply without stopping at London for a refuel. But also this brings bad news the terrorist power seems too be growing from a new host. Or it is still sustaining power off Afghanistan and Iraq. I have a good bet airline traffic will just stop with countries closing the borders due too fear of terrorism and what it could due too the economy of a nation.

[Nero 0]

Yeah not to mention it's gonna take EVEN longer now to go through the checks getting on and off the planes. I remember getting off the plane in Georgia after flying from Peru and I couldn't take a leak during the flight cause I had a FAT and I mean FAT man blocking my way to getting there, he was Peruvian of course so he spoke spanish which I did not at the time, my spanish sucks now anyways. So I think it took like 40 minutes for me to get through this was counting line time too and god I nearly wet myself and this was 2 years after 9/11 i went too.

[w33D.Ross 2]

They shut down all traffic going into London. i was supposed to leave this weekend but my trip was closed for security reasons. Looks like the terrorist won.

[Nero 0]

lol the terrorists real objectives were to piss us off not kill us it seems.

[w33D.Ross 2]

thats the real reason for TERRORism. to TERRORize people. I only wish we had competent leaders to handle the situation

[Guest VegetaFH1]

competent leaders and Terrorists cant be used in the same sentence... lol

apart from that, the terrorists are defending there countrys and want the US and english troops out of iraq or where ever they come from

[Nero 0]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VegetaFH1 @ Jul 1 2007, 06:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

competent leaders and Terrorists cant be used in the same sentence... lol

apart from that, the terrorists are defending there countrys and want the US and english troops out of iraq or where ever they come from

They want us gone along with all non muslims too. The crazy ones will blow themselves up way before that though.

[Guest Phoenix2]

It's been awhile since this board has seen a solid topic like this one. Thanks for starting it Nero. I am moving it to debate and serious talk.

[Guest Pinacolada]

Well England does consist of Muslim refugees that were too radical in their own countries as well.

Someone take away Vegeta's moderator status. Terrorists protecting their country? Oh god what irony. This is just religion at its finest hour.

[bios 1]

I think that we should go back to the WW2 days and just bomb them into unconditional surrender.

[Guest VegetaFH1]

Pitty we cant do that now'a'days

And whats this?

"Someone take away Vegeta's moderator status. Terrorists protecting their country? Oh god what irony. This is just religion at its finest hour."

Ok boy, lets pick this apart... lets say for instance that the US (or stronger country) desides to come into UR country and go down ur streets with tanks and men armed to the teeth stronger then a dino with two giant shotguns, now.. leave them there, but now get afew of the "invaders" to shoot afew of the citizens or "falsely" bomb something by mistake... umm think that gets the point across

the only question now is, witch one are u, the ppl that want the invaders.. or the ppl who blow themselves up screaming about there god doing whats right (or what they think is right) for there country

I believe its the Americans that stat "god speed"(or whatever) and "god bless america" and go on abot there religious stuff (there own beliefs) and use it with there army

Only in this instence try and view it from the other persons perspective, u know.. the person who seems to be called the "terrorist", there homes invaded, ppl they know are dead and the ppl responciable are the americans and whomever else.

Well i can tell u this much mate, anybody "invaded" ireland and u cud count every single irish person being called terrorists.... and it woodnt matter if its the US or Russia or as far out as Japan

Oh and before i forget.. wtf is with asking to have my admin powers removed becuase of my opinion...?

[Guest Pinacolada]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VegetaFH1 @ Jul 1 2007, 11:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Pitty we cant do that now'a'days

And whats this?

"Someone take away Vegeta's moderator status. Terrorists protecting their country? Oh god what irony. This is just religion at its finest hour."

Ok boy, lets pick this apart... lets say for instance that the US (or stronger country) desides to come into UR country and go down ur streets with tanks and men armed to the teeth stronger then a dino with two giant shotguns, now.. leave them there, but now get afew of the "invaders" to shoot afew of the citizens or "falsely" bomb something by mistake... umm think that gets the point across

the only question now is, witch one are u, the ppl that want the invaders.. or the ppl who blow themselves up screaming about there god doing whats right (or what they think is right) for there country

I believe its the Americans that stat "god speed"(or whatever) and "god bless america" and go on abot there religious stuff (there own beliefs) and use it with there army

Only in this instence try and view it from the other persons perspective, u know.. the person who seems to be called the "terrorist", there homes invaded, ppl they know are dead and the ppl responciable are the americans and whomever else.

Well i can tell u this much mate, anybody "invaded" ireland and u cud count every single irish person being called terrorists.... and it woodnt matter if its the US or Russia or as far out as Japan

Oh and before i forget.. wtf is with asking to have my admin powers removed becuase of my opinion...?

So attacks on civilians in subways, airports and all around is justified because there's a British military presence in Afghanistan and Iraq fighting Al-Queda and the insurgents, who have deliberately killed civillians and used them as body shields. If you think that the these terrorists are freedom fighters then I'm just going to end this debate right here.

[bios 1]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinacolada @ Jul 1 2007, 08:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

So attacks on civilians in subways, airports and all around is justified because there's a British military presence in Afghanistan and Iraq fighting Al-Queda and the insurgents, who have deliberately killed civillians and used them as body shields. If you think that the these terrorists are freedom fighters then I'm just going to end this debate right here.

There is a mixture of insurgent groups and militias. They are what they are. Some are just defending their homes and their families. Some are just trying to make it difficult for everyone else. It's all political maneuvering. Iraq is just a training ground for terrorist groups. They train with Shiite and Sunni militias and what better way to train than against a super power.

[w33D.Ross 2]

Sorry for the long post, but If we just pull out of the middle east the insurgent attacks would stop and terrorist acts would severely lessen. The only reason we are over there is to protect our investments in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. GWB messed up severely when he said God told him to invade Iraq. Granted the UN should have done something to get rid of Saddam Hussein for his man treaty breeches, but the US should not have made this a personal war. And with Australia all of a sudden wanting to get involved the situation will not cease for many years.

Australians newest installment in iraq

* An Australian Joint Task Force Headquarters for national command of maritime, land and air elements deployed in the Middle East, comprising around 50 personnel.

* A naval component of about 190 personnel, comprising HMAS Stuart, participating in Coalition maritime interception operations in the northern Persian Gulf, and a Logistic Support Element.

* An RAAF C-130 Hercules detachment of about 150 personnel providing intra-theater air lift and sustainment support in the Middle East, with two transport aircraft, ground crew and other support elements.

* An Air Traffic Control detachment and support personnel at Baghdad International Airport providing air traffic control services, and Combined Air Operations Staff, totaling around 60 personnel.

* A security detachment of about 90 personnel including Australian Light armored Vehicles and explosive ordnance personnel to provide protection and escort for Australian Government personnel working in our diplomatic mission in Baghdad.

* Ten analysts and technical experts to support the Iraq Survey Group, investigating Iraq's past weapons of mass destruction programs.

* An Australian contribution to Coalition headquarters and units, and combined logistics and communications elements, comprising about 90 personnel.

* A military liaison officer with the Australian diplomatic mission in Baghdad.

* A military adviser to the Special Representative of the UN Secretary-General.

* Five ADF personnel working with the Coalition Provisional Authority in Baghdad and al-Hillah.

* An RAAF AP-3C Orion detachment of about 160 personnel conducting maritime patrol operations, with two aircraft and associated command and support elements, supporting stabilisation operations in Iraq and the Coalition operation against terrorism.

* Fifty-two ADF soldiers and sailors assisting with the training of the new Iraqi Army and Iraqi Coastal Defence Force.

[kingarthur 0]

At the moment terrorism runs off of civilains....inevitably we will have too use total war tactics against the civilian populations too stop terrorism.

[Guest Metal Militia]

your fear promotes their terrorism

[kingarthur 0]

I know but technically i'm insane.....

[kingarthur 0]

Fine I will do something logical -.-.

We would ahve too support civilians like those of hurrican katrina. We supply the population with large amounts of food and water with a low defensive guard that would just whatch for anything suspicious while Iraqi guards are patrolling everywhere.

[w33D.Ross 2]

our govt. did nothing to help the people of katrina. The people that helped were volenture workers that had no govt funding

[kingarthur 0]

umm wtf? they used black hawk helicopters too rescue people. Those were issued by the government. Also national guard were sent in too stop violence in New Orleans. These can be traced back too government support.

[Guest Metal Militia]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (w33D.RoSs @ Jul 1 2007, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

our govt. did nothing to help the people of katrina. The people that helped were volenture workers that had no govt funding

not true.

[kingarthur 0]

Metal he has his freedom of speech let him speak what he wants.

[Guest Metal Militia]

ya but if he's wrong... then it's an opinion(not even) and he doesn't have the right to tell it to everyone

[kingarthur 0]

we all have freedom of speech -.-