Undead lord explosion

Suicide bomb explosions work similar to grenades. The damage amount (e.g. 300) is at the center and the damage is lower as you get farther away. That means if the radius was 300 units, at 200 unit distance you would take 1/3 of the suicide bomb damage. Then you have to factor in that height differences increase the damage because distance is calculated from feet to feet (so if they are jumping you would deal even less dmg). Most suicide bombs are 300-400 units so you will rarely even deal 50℅ of whatever the "damage" is on the effect. Stalker is 500 and another race has 500(Ahmed I think?) But they are exceptions.

I can look this week to make sure but hopefully this helps explain it.

Even if you're right next to the undead lord it does around 80 damage

Yeah we were testing it with wishdealer and I walked up to him till I was touching and it did around 80... Unless it's originated in the middle of the playermodel and the falloff is that high at the edge of the model :<

It's possible something is wrong, so like I said I'll check it this week.

seems to be same with undead scourge and flame predator undead doing around 160 dmg point blank flame pred around 125

The debug prints the correct amount of damage but the actual damage is lower even with a race that has no dmg resist.

Turns out that most suicide bomb is physical damage which by default 50% of physical damage is absorbed by armor in War3.

The damage values are working correctly, if they need to be changed then that is a different discussion.

Also worth noting, lots of thorns are physical damage (but a couple are magic I think?) so that is probably why Serif thought there was issues with NE thorns a couple times in the past.