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yes i agree with u, but u have to admit. CSS isnt that bloody as GTA is

CSS is comparable to Teletubies when you compare it to games such as Manhunt, Resident Evil, Gears of War and other various shooters/horror games.

As to games causing issues: Wrong. Just cause you play something doesn't mean it's the game's fault. That's the excuse parents make nowadays to take the blame off themselves since they bought a 12 year old a shooting game and he got into guns then. It's also the players fault for getting overly into it in the first place. Humans have brains, if they don't use them sensibly and understand that they are bad, they are only accountable for their own actions.

Look take charge be a hardass give them restrictions dont back down if they dont listen pull out the old ban hamma dont be afraid to ban another admin if he is breaking the rules.

That's not the point I'm trying to make. I have been more of a hardass, but this is becoming more of an admin v. admin issue on rules and nitpicking. Last night there were quite a few on, but everyone had a viewpoint on what should be done for various topics, which then gets in the way of things as they come.

Honestly if there is anything that I'd like to see for the JB server is just a clarification of things, or addition of things so that rules are more clear for everyone. Right now there's a bit of debate on things, partly from people not reading, and partly from people taking into account what they feel is best/right, which in turn leads to bitching on both sides.

I'm posting this thread today mostly in the want to get some thoughts and ideas out about the JB server. Right now, from what I've observed admining on the server, is that things do not seem to work out well, or punishments are not subject to people that do not wish to cooperate for the better; this is mostly focusing on the CT side, of course.

I'd have to say in the two weeks I've been on, the server isn't really fun, but more of a babysitting game with CT's that don't really get what's going on half the time. I understand people make mistakes. I get that completely, but it's getting to a point where lots of things don't work out on both sides, which in turn is making for a lot of drama over something little, or a human mistake. Namely, people complaining about stuff admins are doing, or smaller things in game such as constant complaints/spam from T's.

From what it's coming down to, it seems more and more like the players on the server want to nitpick details down to the bone. That's alright to a point, but it's getting down to details that are borderline idiocy. Such as when T's are told to 'go outside their cell and freeze immediately', they run out, jump down or to somewhere and then if the warden tells them to move closer to the cell, they start with 'you didn't say a distance'. Seriously? I get the point of orders, but it shouldn't be derailed to the point where you want to nitpick on a small detail that technically should be common sense.

As to common sense, I'd like to see a rule about CT's following the Lead CT where he is. Games lately have had many deputies just wandering and not contributing, but yet I apparently can't do anything even if it's making only half the CT's available which in turn makes keeping order and all a bigger problem since some want to just wander and mess around, while not actually playing.

And one more thing that I'd like to see. In the rules for JB, is it possible that we could also define the various freedays and their limitations too? I've been hearing too much speculation on it, without any real clarification or real meaning to it, outside of 'don't shoot them or it's freekilling'.

So, this'll start off this discussion. I'd hope this stays a bit civil in talking about the ideas, but I have a feeling that won't be the case. I really would like this thread to be a start for ideas and the like, since the server IS good, but small things are just holding it down, and general complaining/nitpicking are slowing it down and making it a babysit server, rather than JB. Lets see how it goes.

Bump because this issue is coming up not only with destruction of object, but also for movement lag on objects such as boats, trams, lifts, etc.

Ah well, had to try. Feel free to get rid of the thread then.

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!sethealth @all 100

!give @all weapon_deagle

!freeze @all 3243243242423

All your commands right there. Type in chat.

I don't think I made this clear. Let me refix what I originally mean.

If you have basic admin, you don't have access to all those commands. I'm requesting that all admin on the JB server have access to all of said commands.

Sorry about being unclear beforehand.

May not get accepted, but what the hell.

Just a small request, but is it possible if you have admin, on the JB server, we can get access to the weapon/freeze commands for mic checks and the like? Basic Admin does not have the weapon/freeze commands, so if they receive them, it'd be a bit easier to keep track and control of things. Gets a tad annoying when no other admin is on some times, and people don't want to listen.

Edit for clarifying the Basic Admin part.

I think we can honestly say that about 95% of new admins... post 10$ price

excluding those like sketch and ponch, most new admins have no fucking clue what they're doing and they suck ass.

Hey, I do the best I can. I can't help that most people on JB don't want to listen, or understand things from my point of view too.

Yeah. True there, Renji. I think I'm just gonna be a hardass, and if people have issues, they can take it here. Most of the time I see claims being made here from people being stupid, then wanting to get unbanned because they think it was 'alright to do'.

I've gone on JB server to admin, and people bitch WAY too much. If I admin right, I'm being a hardass, but if I don't do everything they want, they whine that I'm 'not doing my job right'.

Then when I spec and watch everything and see something legit happen they bitch saying that I'm 'playing favorites' or 'not looking well enough'.

Funny, if I'm that 'bad' at it, there sure aren't any complaints over me.

I think there should be a rule on whining/spamming. It's getting out of control, and the JB server is slowly becoming the BS server. I'm not wanting to admin on it at this rate cause people are too fucking nitpicky on shit, which in turn causes deaths, then causes whining. The "USE COMMON SENSE!" phrase from the rules should be applied to EVERY aspect of the server and enforced. I'm sick of babysitting kids thinking they can call BS on stuff that wasn't said, but should be known.

I play nearly daily and I agree there are times when it's a real issue. Those times are a minority, however, and nades ultimately make the rounds more dynamic and fun.

I don't mind dynamic and fun, but I do mind when they make them stupid and idiotic. I can't kick/slay for being stupid, but when it's screwing up the game for people trying to win and all on the human side, it gets people angry.

I guess this topic has a big gray area to it as to what is fine and what is not, but I do like the idea of that play time = nade. Though I think it should be 48 hours worth IMO.

lol nades would never get restricted, it's just a part of life.

Idiots will commit the cade braking crap and move on. Just don't follow the group and go solo

The thing is, this isn't a regular Zombie mod, this is a Escape, where you don't have much say as to where you can go, and eventually you end up at the same place. When you have to have said cade to defend with, it kinda makes it a pain when you have tools that will throw without thinking, or do it to screw things up. Doesn't help that people don't listen.

I'm glad it's going to be discussed at the least next JCS meeting. Really, they aren't doing much in my eyes, and it just messes things up horribly for many maps. I don't have an issue if you can pick them up on the maps, for instance in Helms Deep and Sewer Escape, but having everyone buy one at the start just makes things get screwy later.

Hmm... I'd say she might run for president. She would be the perfect first woman president in my opinion... I am not gonna lie, Hilary Clinton would destroy our nation... No doubt about it.

And Obama... Not so good. He has a 31-year-old man, not even gone through college heading the auto industry stuff. Plus, he's cutting military spending in the middle of a war. WTF?

In my opinion, it should be required you serve in the military to be eligable for presidency.

Now, some people may take this as racist, but it's not, OK?

Obama was picked because he was black. Afirmative action. Google "Affirmative Action Lawsuit" if you don't know what it is.

Technically, if you had to be in the military to be president, I'd say 50%+ wouldn't be legit then. Especially the last three or four in office. Also, the military 'cuts' are more towards getting out of the illegal war in Iraq, since a deadline is supposed to happen in 2010. Just wish it never happened in the first place though.

As to Palin being president, I just don't see that happening. Considering during the campaign she wasn't really stopping much hate-speech and the like, especially with some crowds saying "Kill him!" aimed at Obama, I don't see any reason why she should be allowed in if she condones that behavior. That's just beyond sad. I also don't get why she's so popular for doing a lot of nothing... but then again, the same could be said about a lot on both sides.

As to race, yeah, I'll admit it did factor into him winning, can't really deny that to a high degree, but I chose him moreso because his ideals weren't extreme compared to the others on the Right. If McCain had been in the race eight years ago, I would consider him since he had his head on his shoulders then, but I saw him sell out a bit in the past four, so he's not really a 'maverick', but a conformer in my eyes.

Oh, and go go health care. We need it.

This has been a long time coming, but I figure I'll make a post about it to discuss my case.

Anyway, I'm sure as many of you have noticed on the ZE server that nades are more hurtful than helpful. I don't quite see the point of having them in when the use of them is just pointless, and people use them stupidly, which in turn usually ends up screwing over the team, whether it's by boosting zombies forward, destroying cades, knocking away items (I.E, Moria with the ring) and destroying objects (I.E, breakable doors/planks). Overall, they just don't do a goddamn thing outside of make me have to ban more people for being stupid thinking they'll be cool or help out, but then screw the team over. See Elevator Escape/Showdown/Jurassic Park.

It would make sense that they're gone anyway, since the others are restricted as is. Obviously smoke/flash grenades don't need to be in. Why? Cause they WILL screw teams over cause there is always that one tool that will throw it, then everyone can't see, and a zombie rushes in and the round dominoes downhill due to some idiot. The same is being proven with a regular nade each day as I watch people tossing nades PAST zombies and not thinking. Also, are they really needed for damage as is? I can unload a full clip of my M249 and do way more damage/spread to a group of zombies and it keeps them back, rather than risk shooting them forward by tossing a nade in for 'extra damage'.

This just comes back to how stupid some players are on the server as it has grown. I've been admin for about two weeks now, and I do enjoy helping out by keeping control on it when I can, but at the same time there's just so much dumb shit going on by players that A) don't have sound up or B) don't read anything I type. Me, marsh and Xoxo have had to ban so many before due to dumb shit, so really this wouldn't just be helping out the players, it would help us out with not having to track every single nade that goes out when a cade/breakable object is around.

I really do hope this gets taken into account, because they really are not helping anyone. I think I've only seen a few times where a nade has helped the team, but 97% of the time, it screws it over. Please, lets just restrict them and make the ZE server a little less stupid for people.

Yes, this server needs a fix on the physics, as well as on the server. It's lagging hard and it's near impossible to really do much without lagging out. It's killing the game and making it harder to track people as an admin as well.

Please fix this up ASAP, it's starting to get to people.