TheDentist

Yeah after looking at it there is no reason for that gap between the wall and skybox to be there. Also, disco shouldn't be heard through the entire map. First couple things I noticed.

I disagree. It should be that way only if the music is way too loud (like outdoor jail). Otherwise I like to hear the music when cts arent talking. When they are talking on jungle, I cant hear the music at all. So no reason to fix something that doesnt need fixing.

It may be a personal preference thing, but when you have the ability to make the music quieter when you are further away from the source, it seems strange to make the music the same volume wherever you go. It also gets annoying when CTs love to spam the music so no matter where I am I have to listen to the songs at a constant volume.

Especially since some people have such awful music on their maps.

How dare you, sir.

If it is an exploit, no matter how ridiculous, you should have it fixed.

Do you have a large box with the skybox texture around the entire map, including below?

Yes, those mountains are the de_aztec skybox texture

Totally missed this. No, I am talking about the actual skybox texture (the blue box that says "skybox" on it). If you just made a hollowed out box and had gaps between that and the wall, then you would have an issue. If you put the edge of the skybox where the edge of the outer wall is, you won't have an issue with people jumping out of the map.

Yes there is a skybox. It is impossible to jump "out of the map". People are having problems keeping either 1) over the outer wall, in some places I have a wall and then some grass before it finally hits the skybox, or they get stuck/lost behind games. I tried to restrict people from going behind and around all the games because they could literally hide back there for hours without being found, so I have boxes and map props blocking the way. Some of them have proven to not be enough to stop the likes of drug.

Have you played the map? I think you'd understand what I'm talking about (and know there was a skybox) if you had loaded it before !

^ I got that off isohunt.com and a bittorrent client. It's pretty intuitive. I made some cs:go videos using Fraps and then Dxtory but a 2 min video was like 6 gigabytes hahah, I may have been doing something wrong. Anyway, that was enough for me haha

lulz, beta 2 bro

Was this jump drug did so ridiculous I don't need to find a fix for it?

I jumped from the wall in front of race to the box on the right side of it. I was purposefully looking for jumps to get to spots you shouldn't.

I figured that might be what you did after I looked at the map again in that area. I'll probably move that block you jumped onto further back towards the back of race so the jump is impossible.

Yeah after looking at it there is no reason for that gap between the wall and skybox to be there. Also, disco shouldn't be heard through the entire map. First couple things I noticed.

I disagree. It should be that way only if the music is way too loud (like outdoor jail). Otherwise I like to hear the music when cts arent talking. When they are talking on jungle, I cant hear the music at all. So no reason to fix something that doesnt need fixing.

It may be a personal preference thing, but when you have the ability to make the music quieter when you are further away from the source, it seems strange to make the music the same volume wherever you go. It also gets annoying when CTs love to spam the music so no matter where I am I have to listen to the songs at a constant volume.

Especially since some people have such awful music on their maps.

Dentist: I only got to play jungle for a few rounds today so I didn't get a chance to check out the games, but I noticed a few textures clipping (z-fighting because there are two brush faces at the same place) and that a texture in the toilet model was missing from the bsp.

thorgot - that toilet thing is annoying. It's a new prop_static from the cs_militia map, I'm not sure how to make that look like water. The other toilet options are too... clean? Like the toilets are immaculate. I actually prefer the missing texture to the bright porcelain white toilet model hahaha

With the clipping yeah I've noticed it too, most of the spots I can't find a problem, it's very frustrating. In the back vent towards the cabin there is a non-solid texture of the grass inexplicably at the end of the vent... I can't find it to save my life in SDK and have no idea where it's coming from.

I will say this though - from my first attempt through 3rd attempt at map making I made huge leaps and bounds in optimization and cleaning stuff like that up. Unfortunately some of it still made it to final beta.

One thing that really helped (esp with compile time while testing) was building all the game individually and then deleting the skybox and floor and copy-pasting it into the level. It offered much easier to test compiling speeds, but it made some clipping issues more difficult while importing huge games from the blue and trying to gently place them into a map.

On my drive to indianapolis yesterday evening (3 hours) I came up with some interesting game ideas I'm excited to try to build in SDK over the next couple weeks that may be able to be ported into jb_jungle to give it some more original games, though some may be a stretch for a jungle theme.

Thanks for the feedback!

Thanks broseph, maybe I'll try that clusterfuck called TTT someday!

Yeah after looking at it there is no reason for that gap between the wall and skybox to be there. Also, disco shouldn't be heard through the entire map. First couple things I noticed.

I disagree. It should be that way only if the music is way too loud (like outdoor jail). Otherwise I like to hear the music when cts arent talking. When they are talking on jungle, I cant hear the music at all. So no reason to fix something that doesnt need fixing.

It may be a personal preference thing, but when you have the ability to make the music quieter when you are further away from the source, it seems strange to make the music the same volume wherever you go. It also gets annoying when CTs love to spam the music so no matter where I am I have to listen to the songs at a constant volume.

Simple fix; when a CT hits a disco button, they die.

Lol. Is jungle boogie reallllly worth it

Not sure how crazy drug's jump was, didn't see it.

So far, I've noticed some things that get annoying while rabbling:

- cts not with their team (often at disco) make it hard to use the back vent

- cts staring at the roof of the back hut

if you spawn in that vent cell you should be able to beat them to the hut thoguh right? do you mean by the time you get out and have a gun they're all back there and shit? i don't know how the map could change to fix that besides CTs not being cocks

If it is an exploit, no matter how ridiculous, you should have it fixed.

Do you have a large box with the skybox texture around the entire map, including below?

Yes, those mountains are the de_aztec skybox texture

Was this jump drug did so ridiculous I don't need to find a fix for it? Someone else got over the wall during a ninja freeday.... I don't plan on extending invisible walls all the way to the sky, but I'll fix the obvious problems, so far they seem like people trying to find things (which I appreciate and us the point of beta!), let me know if you think it's something I should look into fixing

I think people die on ladder roulette when they back up into the previous levels kill Zones lol, I can adjust that. I need to add a recall button for race like there is for climb

There is always another round around the corner haha. Ill consider it for beta 2. Also maybe an isolation... And some sort of dental tooth game?

Christmas, you referring I making the tiny 16:1 skybox, right?

As for the medic, I talked about it with a couple people; it's frustrating to shoot a ct from stack for 80 damage and watch them run and heal, CTs have it so easy sometimes. Plus admins can heal all Ts when the game requires it. What's te advantage for a medic otherwise ?

Just played 12 rounds on it with ~5 CTS v 10 Ts, Terrorists won 8-4. Once a terorrist makes it to the foliage with a gun, GG. Sniper escape most popular game. Consensus for now is that climb and race are very difficult, but people just need to be better at CS:GO haha

We ran out of games to play after we tried them all, I think we just needed to be more creative with typical non-map games, we were focused on playing the map though. Didn't do any simon says, trivia, bloody bunny, etc.

Daileyyy cried like a bitch the whole time because there is no medic, and I refuse to put one in because its the fucking jungle. Either don't get shot by Ts or stop falling off the tall spots in the map, gg.

There weren't many instances of vent spawns due to low number of people on server. Of the 30 T spawns, 1 is vent cell to armory, 2 are vent cell to adventurer's cabin, so 10% of Ts are in a vent cell. There are spawned smoke and flash 20% of the rounds they could potentially use to sneak into one, however.

Please post any comments/critiques as you play it so I have an idea of what works and what doesn't.

inb4 Daileyyy posts asking for a medic.

For anyone interested in playing it themselves first or so it d/ls faster on rotation: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/27629249/jb_jungle_beta.bsp

D: I didn't get beta test credit

Ah Name my bad broseph! I took a screencap of all the beta testers but it must've been after you DCed! *edited* for posterity

I'm going to bed (on my iPad) while my computer groans doing the final full compile overnight haha, will be ready tomorrow and then whenever staff can add it to rotation

So after 80-100 hours in the map making software for cs:go we are here, ready to reveal my newest and first ever custom made map, jb_jungle (jb_jungle_beta for now)!

Teaser:

Shout outs

sG | Electronic Drug and Hurffinator - for technical help with map making bugs and functions

Beta testers - Splewis, Avery, Ivanns, Mr British, Apuchu, Dark Knight, lolcatz, Name, Waffles

The map includes:

- Aztec textures and theme

- 30 Terrorist spawns, 15 Counter-terrorist spawns,

- Sinkhole Diving (longjump), Race, Poison Vines (ladder roulette), Death Pit Roulette (4 chairs/color/squares), Aztec Maze, Jungle themed disco music, Climb, and Sniper Escape.

- Music: Guns and Roses "welcome to the jungle", Creedence "Run through the jungle", "Jungle Boogie", and "I wanna be like you" from the Jungle Book

- Two vent cells, one direct to armory, one to back of map "Adventurer's Cabin"

- Tons of foliage/environment to hide/rebel in

- Paths for control of terrorists as warden, as well as several catwalks and vantage points on different games and cell block

- Randomly spawned choice in cells of: 1 glock, 1 p250, 1 henade, 1flash and 1 smoke, or 5 decoys.

- "Adventurer's cabin" with scout (1 clip), sawed off, molotov, and glock

- Other secrets that will remain secrets

- Beautiful scenery and lighting!

See full album of screenshots (40 pics) HERE

I'm especially proud of the aesthetics of the map, I feel like a lot of jb maps are fairly dull and utilitarian (they are jails, but still). This one hopefully has some flavor.

Hoping to have Staff put it in the rotation soon and get an idea of how balanced or unbalanced it is for potential renovations or a beta_2

View from the pond in sniper escape (didn't come out in the album for some reason):

Enjoy!

I for one welcome our new hostage map overlords

In all seriousness these are some welcome changes for me, hostage maps were maps I completely avoided due to their insanely T-sided-ness. Also stoked to see cs_miltia is back! And that last one: "- Fixed a bug where friends were banned from joining parties where one of the members failed to recently accept a competitive match." We've all been THERE hahah

grats man, I hope you get laid tonight

lol we found out after one more game that w1nd does have a rank but it was left over from before they changed the ranking system. So apparently it didn't show up but it was used in matchmaking. W1nd is actually some super elite caesar gold leaf gun thing, global elite maybe? anyway I guess he dragged our average way up haha

Rasputin you prob need to the .NET pokerstars client.

Where can I d/l teamspeak so I can 'check in'?

Get it while it's hot!