Øpiate 30 Posted May 21, 2007 No lists!! No "top 5"s. Post your single favorite weapon in CS:S and tell us why!I'm still loving the Deagle right now. Awesome close range, and accurate enough to pick of snipers before they can draw a bead on you - if you're fast enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelso 4 Posted May 21, 2007 AUG is pretty sick.I like it because of the zoom capability(obviously) and because of the low spread and recoil when spraying or doing 5 shot bursts. And head shotting is pretty easy, but I think that's because of the hit boxes on CS: S. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shephard Posted May 21, 2007 Colt M4A1 man, great for head shots, and i love the silencer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest killer Posted May 21, 2007 I like the Carbine for the automatic choice or the burst fire so its pretty good long range shots and close Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bios 1 Posted May 21, 2007 <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MrFi5ter @ May 21 2007, 09:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>No lists!! No "top 5"s. Post your single favorite weapon in CS:S and tell us why!I'm still loving the Deagle right now. Awesome close range, and accurate enough to pick of snipers before they can draw a bead on you - if you're fast enough.deagle <3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Drunkentig3r Posted May 21, 2007 Favorite Pistol: Deagle Favorite Rifle: M4A1. Its commonly used for a reason.Shotgun is nice too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mafia 0 Posted May 21, 2007 ak=superpwnage machine of godm4 cant even get a kill off a hs (assuming they have helmet) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingarthur 0 Posted May 21, 2007 m4+deagle= OWNAGE!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Drunkentig3r Posted May 22, 2007 AK is nice if you know how to use it. I'm not a modder or anything so I don't know if there is a huge discrepancy between the M4A1 and the AK47 (obviously big difference in real life, but we're talking in-game here) and the way they are set up, but for me this is the breakdown between the two:M4A1:(+)-Effective short-medium range-Silencer (makes it more accurate?) more inaudible for opponents with better sound cards.-Great 5-round burst capability-Fairly accurate even at Full-Auto.-Fairly good at spraying-Quite accurate in hands of both skilled player and noob alike (aka: noob friendly)-Less Recoil(-)-Even though its one of the most commonly used rifles, price: power ratio its still somewhat expensive (might change based on weekly price fluctuations)-Gets weaker at long range. Vs a high powered sniper rifle (most likely AWP), 9/10 you will lose.-Rounds seemingly do not do as much damage as other rifles.AK-47:(+)-Cheaper than M4A1 (usually-again, might be affected by weekly price fluctuations)-Price: Power Ratio=GOOD-Has decent accuracy-Seems rounds are more powerful(-)-Not noob friendly-Most effective only in short, 3 round bursts (takes some practice to control and time)-Mediocre short range at Full-Auto (I used a full 30 round clip on a guy who was standing maybe 5 feet in front of me-he was still alive when I ran out)-Bad for spraying-Has noticeable recoilAnyone care to clarify the following for me? I want verifiable sources, not just personal opinions -Does silencer have any affect on the accuracy of M4A1?-Which gun reloads faster? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mafia 0 Posted May 22, 2007 in reference to hush herethe silencer actually reduces the accuracy the m4 at long range and has little effect on it medium/shortit HARDLY effects it tho,and the ak is not a weapon for spaying, if you need more than 10 rounds to put someone down your a nub.if your facing multiple opponents with it you can crouch and fire 3-5 round bursts and get good accuracy, or an actualy situation.your in d2 at A and there is a sniper standing on the ledge above pit wtahcing the plating area. use the ledge and strafe out into his line of sight, your first shot will be very close to perfect if you satdn and wait for about a second and your next 2 will be close to the mark.if you absoulutley must spray with the ak aim at their thigh while firing, youll end up with a hs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Drunkentig3r Posted May 22, 2007 Well yeah thats what I do with an AK-to make up for the recoil I aim low so when it kicks I end up hitting higher up. I only spray when I'm holding off like multiple guys (including zombies). Thanks for info Mafia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mafia 0 Posted May 22, 2007 im sorry i need to make a correctionthe silencer makes it less accurate but reduces recoil. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest killer Posted May 22, 2007 Well actually the silencer does incress acuracy. Only for the fact it reduces the recoil making it easier to aim for there head. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest VegetaFH1 Posted May 22, 2007 In real life the AK47 would loss hands down to an M4A1 with M2O3 combined with X4 Iron Scope, granted the M2O3 gives it the extra weight to sit nicely in ur hands and ok, its a grenade launcher but who cares, u will take down an AK users in far less time then it will take them to take u downWith a 30 bullet clip of 3.45 or AP 3.50 rounds, the M4A1 (silenced) is the deadliest weapon out there, id love to see an AK47 silenced irl.. lmao, blow the fukin gun apart, big peace of plastic crap if u ask meThis is mainly why i choose one in gameApart from that if they gave us the M82 1km shot 10 bullet clip sniper rifle... id take that over any gun Fukin thing takes out light tanks from upto a 1KM with AP bullets, got to admit thats one powerful mother fucker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Drunkentig3r Posted May 23, 2007 http://tantal.kalashnikov.guns.ru/parts5.htmlhttp://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2363/img38047mn.jpghttp://www.rusmilitary.com/html/firearms_BRsuppressor.htmThey are bound to exist. The AK-47/74/AKM are used by militaries all over the world - the shit we see captured from weapons caches in the Middle East are either really old AK-47's or imitations. If both China and Russia uses the rifles in their armies, and they both have special forces groups...I would think their R&D department would've been able to come up with AT LEAST something to reduce audible sound, even if by a small amount. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest some fag Posted May 23, 2007 1)AK472)M4A13)Pump Shotgun4)AUG5)ElitesWhat? What did I do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest some fag Posted May 23, 2007 Vegeta, I'm sorry to say, the AK47/similar is much better than an M4/M16/AR15/AR16/AR14/or any other AR# or M# rifle.How do I know? Because, first, I have fired multiple variations of BOTH weapons, and the M4 based weapons don't seem to be any more accurate than an AK47, and generally, the grain that you find in 7.62mm rifle rounds exceed that of the 5.56mm rounds, and can fire faster and with more power than the smaller ammunition. While the 7.62 is in most cases slower, it makes up for that in it's weight, giving it MUCH more power and penetration force than a 5.56 round.The speed differences (generally, 7.62 is slower, but when you get into higher grains, is faster), aren't that great, and therefore I would take an AK47/similar rifle, due to these reasons.An example of how much better these AK47 rifles is Iraq. Our US soldiers in Iraq have actually traded their standard issue M4 rifle, for a slightly heavier AK47, because of jamming issues. The dust and sand in Iraq is not very kind on the M4 rifle, and causes it to frequently jam. The AK47, however, does not do this as frequently or in most cases, at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest some fag Posted May 23, 2007 <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Killer @ May 22 2007, 09:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>Well actually the silencer does incress acuracy. Only for the fact it reduces the recoil making it easier to aim for there head.Eh, you are part right, there, Killer.The silencer does add accuracy, at the cost of weight and power.What increases the accuracy is the extra length of the barrel. The length of the barrel holds the bullet steady for a while longer as the bullet balances in the air.What decreases the power is the extra length of the barrel. The excess friction of the lengthened barrel is enough to cause dramatic reductions in power.The weight part is self explanatory. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GhostHaven Posted May 23, 2007 <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE («Z£µ§.:GØû @ May 22 2007, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>Vegeta, I'm sorry to say, the AK47/similar is much better than an M4/M16/AR15/AR16/AR14/or any other AR# or M# rifle.How do I know? Because, first, I have fired multiple variations of BOTH weapons, and the M4 based weapons don't seem to be any more accurate than an AK47, and generally, the grain that you find in 7.62mm rifle rounds exceed that of the 5.56mm rounds, and can fire faster and with more power than the smaller ammunition. While the 7.62 is in most cases slower, it makes up for that in it's weight, giving it MUCH more power and penetration force than a 5.56 round.The speed differences (generally, 7.62 is slower, but when you get into higher grains, is faster), aren't that great, and therefore I would take an AK47/similar rifle, due to these reasons.An example of how much better these AK47 rifles is Iraq. Our US soldiers in Iraq have actually traded their standard issue M4 rifle, for a slightly heavier AK47, because of jamming issues. The dust and sand in Iraq is not very kind on the M4 rifle, and causes it to frequently jam. The AK47, however, does not do this as frequently or in most cases, at all.ya zeus American soldiers in Iraq are not issued m4s they are issued m16...big difference and ya ak are way more environment friendly...most reliable gun there is Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest some fag Posted May 23, 2007 <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GhostHaven @ May 23 2007, 12:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>ya zeus American soldiers in Iraq are not issued m4s they are issued m16...big difference and ya ak are way more environment friendly...most reliable gun there isThey are actually issued both. Standard issue is the M16, but there are hardly any differences, believe me.AKs are FAR more reliable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Drunkentig3r Posted May 23, 2007 Zeus your 16-where the fuck you live where you can fire high powered rifles? Georgia? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest VegetaFH1 Posted May 23, 2007 Doesnt matter what age he is, doesnt matter where he lives in the US, he can still get a gun (that size) and fire it in open view of everybody, thats the way the US isAnyway, the M16 and the AK does have simular parts, i will agree with that, the M2O3 for example, the AK does have a part for it, altho whomever said the Russians and chinesse use the AK in there army is nuts.. ok, in the ARMY yes, but not in the special forces, u see when it comes to that, china and russian have a special weapon, its called the VSS Vintorez, its a 10 bullet clip 10x scope high powered automatic sniper rifle, silenced from the start barrle(hammer)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VSS_VintorezIt doesnt say the use of chinesse using the VSS but its there, the russians and chinesse have an agreement over that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shephard Posted May 23, 2007 Umm Wasn't the M16 decommissioned and they use M4's now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest VegetaFH1 Posted May 23, 2007 Where the hell did u hear thatthe M16 is the US's national gun, they always use the blasted thing, even tho its like the AK47 in the sence its one big peace of plastic crap Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites