Mr.Thaco-Olmon 44 Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) These are my opinions on the tiers of ALL (except Witch-King, Tracer and Illusionist) on the server. If you think something is incorrect or should be lowered/raised then please suggest that here. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d0nGFGhQptd0kHiwxkdL69ZalNc1cuNCAsJcU92OGGE/edit?usp=sharing *Edit. It's really important to note that because a race is C-Tier doesn't mean you can't do well on it. I've top fragged with Cursed Pharaoh, I've seen a top fragging Devious Flimflam. Edited February 23, 2018 by Mr.Thaco-Olmon 1 thorgot reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fat bitch v.169 20 Posted February 23, 2018 professor x deserves its own tier. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Face 1910 Posted February 23, 2018 Definitely disagree with a half dozen or more but no time to comment further tonight.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Impenetrable Wall 31 Posted February 23, 2018 If night elf is not an A tier race then idk what is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serif The Sheriff 73 Posted February 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, skitt said: 13 minutes ago, The Impenetrable Wall said: If night elf is not an A tier race then idk what is. RIGHT?!?!?!?!?!?!?! 1 The Impenetrable Wall reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zebra 178 Posted February 23, 2018 If you wanted an objective tier list, you could just weigh the maxed KD for each race and have a proper bell curve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Thaco-Olmon 44 Posted February 23, 2018 1 minute ago, zebra said: If you wanted an objective tier list, you could just weigh the maxed KD for each race and have a proper bell curve That would be an average of all players on the race, even looking at maxed level KD's only this isn't accurate as some people don't play a race correctly or like the races play style. I'm also not sure if these KD's are ever reset and considering the amount of changes that would further make these inaccurate There is no pure and good objective way to look at this. These are my personal opinions and I don't claim them to be 100% accurate. I invite people to debate these and I have already made multiple edits because other people had better arguments for a race to be listed higher or lower. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zebra 178 Posted February 23, 2018 20 minutes ago, Mr.Thaco-Olmon said: That would be an average of all players on the race, even looking at maxed level KD's only this isn't accurate as some people don't play a race correctly or like the races play style. That's the point. If the average of all players is absurdly higher (like >2 standard deviations), than it's obvious that it's inherently stronger. If you wanted to add another factor, you could even weigh the individual KD's for each maxed race by a player's time played to get a more accurate representation of maxed KD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
water.exe 725 Posted February 23, 2018 You must be high because a lot of the C tier heroes you have listed are better than you think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Princey 19 Posted February 23, 2018 I've actually considered doing one of these in the past, or atleast compiling a personal list, but the issue that I ran into was that a tier list design by a sole player, or even a group of friends, will have bias. You'd need statistics that are objective rather than what you feel, or else you'll rate races based on your preference. A lot of these for example are very disagreeable: Nelf (Higher) Banshee (Lower) Smoke (Higher) Troll (Lower) Default (Higher) Devil Servant (Higher) Selune (Higher) Frodo (Higher???) Ogre (Higher) That's just cursory looks, I think that if we had every player do a rating list for ever the top 15 races, it'd be understandable if no two were alike. 1 1 Mr.Thaco-Olmon and water.exe reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trelvick 51 Posted February 23, 2018 Wouldn't Flame Predator have disruptor as well? I mean the race has a large disarm chance that is non-ultimate/ability. I mean last option it is a suicider. but that is still a big debuff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rootbeer 1293 Posted February 23, 2018 I think there must be a mistake???? Human alliance is in the C-tier section when it should be in the S-tier section. Also idk about this 3 hours ago, zebra said: If the average of all players is absurdly higher (like >2 standard deviations), than it's obvious that it's inherently stronger. Just look at league, kha'zix/rengar are insanely strong by anyone who knows how to play him but the majority don't so they're viewed as "weaker" champions. Hell there was even a season where Lee Sin was sleeper OP and very powerful but noone played him, then Riot buffed him and he dominated for a whole season or two. 1 water.exe reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Sharp- 77 Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) How is Elemental a "B-Tier" race I mean that thing should be S tier I TOP FRAG OVER THE WHOLE SERVER WHEN I PLAY IT. Edit: A lot of these races like swat officer being "C-Tier" is kinda crazy I think this race has better base skills than most "B-tier" races? Edited February 23, 2018 by -Sharp- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Imperium 295 Posted February 23, 2018 2 hours ago, -Sharp- said: How is Elemental a "B-Tier" race I mean that thing should be S tier I TOP FRAG OVER THE WHOLE SERVER WHEN I PLAY IT. Edit: A lot of these races like swat officer being "C-Tier" is kinda crazy I think this race has better base skills than most "B-tier" races? Prob a-tier with the 1000 expertise’s it has 1 Swed reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Sharp- 77 Posted February 24, 2018 On 2/23/2018 at 10:15 AM, Imperium said: Prob a-tier with the 1000 expertise’s it has EXACTLY THANK YOU. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serif The Sheriff 73 Posted February 25, 2018 On 2/23/2018 at 6:19 AM, -Sharp- said: How is Elemental a "B-Tier" race I mean that thing should be S tier I TOP FRAG OVER THE WHOLE SERVER WHEN I PLAY IT. Uhhh...no...can't even 24-0 with the race XD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThaHax1337 0 Posted February 25, 2018 No Remember The Name? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WishDealer 1 Posted February 25, 2018 Good job putting the effort into making a tier list! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Thaco-Olmon 44 Posted February 26, 2018 15 hours ago, ThaHax1337 said: No Remember The Name? You have to Remember the Name Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Impenetrable Wall 31 Posted February 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Mr.Thaco-Olmon said: You have to Remember the Name I am the best remember the name player... their for you shall remember my name Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zebra 178 Posted February 28, 2018 Make Dragon Knight's ult not affect ult immune people. ez balance 2 Eden and Swed reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites