Tier Listings

[Mr.Thaco-Olmon 44]

These are my opinions on the tiers of ALL (except Witch-King, Tracer and Illusionist) on the server.

 

If you think something is incorrect or should be lowered/raised then please suggest that here.

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d0nGFGhQptd0kHiwxkdL69ZalNc1cuNCAsJcU92OGGE/edit?usp=sharing

 

*Edit. It's really important to note that because a race is C-Tier doesn't mean you can't do well on it. I've top fragged with Cursed Pharaoh, I've seen a top fragging Devious Flimflam.

Edited February 23, 2018 by Mr.Thaco-Olmon

[fat bitch v.169 20]

professor x deserves its own tier.

[Face 1910]

Definitely disagree with a half dozen or more but no time to comment further tonight.


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[The Impenetrable Wall 31]

If night elf is not an A tier race then idk what is. 

[skitt 1307]

[Serif The Sheriff 73]

11 minutes ago, skitt said:

 

13 minutes ago, The Impenetrable Wall said:

If night elf is not an A tier race then idk what is. 

RIGHT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[zebra 178]

If you wanted an objective tier list, you could just weigh the maxed KD for each race and have a proper bell curve

[Mr.Thaco-Olmon 44]

1 minute ago, zebra said:

If you wanted an objective tier list, you could just weigh the maxed KD for each race and have a proper bell curve

 

That would be an average of all players on the race, even looking at maxed level KD's only this isn't accurate as some people don't play a race correctly or like the races play style. I'm also not sure if these KD's are ever reset and considering the amount of changes that would further make these inaccurate

 

There is no pure and good objective way to look at this. These are my personal opinions and I don't claim them to be 100% accurate. I invite people to debate these and I have already made multiple edits because other people had better arguments for a race to be listed higher or lower.

[zebra 178]

20 minutes ago, Mr.Thaco-Olmon said:

 

That would be an average of all players on the race, even looking at maxed level KD's only this isn't accurate as some people don't play a race correctly or like the races play style.

 

That's the point. If the average of all players is absurdly higher (like >2 standard deviations), than it's obvious that it's inherently stronger. If you wanted to add another factor, you could even weigh the individual KD's for each maxed race by a player's time played to get a more accurate representation of maxed KD.

 

[water.exe 725]

You must be high because a lot of the C tier heroes you have listed are better than you think.

[Princey 19]

I've actually considered doing one of these in the past, or atleast compiling a personal list, but the issue that I ran into was that a tier list design by a sole player, or even a group of friends, will have bias. You'd need statistics that are objective rather than what you feel, or else you'll rate races based on your preference.

 

A lot of these for example are very disagreeable: 

Nelf (Higher)
Banshee (Lower)
Smoke (Higher)

Troll (Lower)

Default (Higher)

Devil Servant (Higher)
Selune (Higher)

Frodo (Higher???)

Ogre (Higher)

 

That's just cursory looks, I think that if we had every player do a rating list for ever the top 15 races, it'd be understandable if no two were alike.

 

[Trelvick 51]

Wouldn't Flame Predator have disruptor as well? I mean the race has a large disarm chance that is non-ultimate/ability. I mean last option it is a suicider. but that is still a big debuff.

[Rootbeer 1293]

I think there must be a mistake???? Human alliance is in the C-tier section when it should be in the S-tier section.

 

Also idk about this

3 hours ago, zebra said:

If the average of all players is absurdly higher (like >2 standard deviations), than it's obvious that it's inherently stronger.

Just look at league, kha'zix/rengar are insanely strong by anyone who knows how to play him but the majority don't so they're viewed as "weaker" champions. Hell there was even a season where Lee Sin was sleeper OP and very powerful but noone played him, then Riot buffed him and he dominated for a whole season or two.

[-Sharp- 77]

How is Elemental a "B-Tier" race I mean that thing should be S tier I TOP FRAG OVER THE WHOLE SERVER WHEN I PLAY IT.

 

 

Edit: A lot of these races like swat officer being "C-Tier" is kinda crazy I think this race has better base skills than most "B-tier" races? 

Edited February 23, 2018 by -Sharp-

[Imperium 295]

2 hours ago, -Sharp- said:

How is Elemental a "B-Tier" race I mean that thing should be S tier I TOP FRAG OVER THE WHOLE SERVER WHEN I PLAY IT.

 

 

Edit: A lot of these races like swat officer being "C-Tier" is kinda crazy I think this race has better base skills than most "B-tier" races? 

Prob a-tier with the 1000 expertise’s it has

[-Sharp- 77]

On 2/23/2018 at 10:15 AM, Imperium said:

Prob a-tier with the 1000 expertise’s it has

EXACTLY THANK YOU.

[Serif The Sheriff 73]

On 2/23/2018 at 6:19 AM, -Sharp- said:

How is Elemental a "B-Tier" race I mean that thing should be S tier I TOP FRAG OVER THE WHOLE SERVER WHEN I PLAY IT.

Uhhh...no...can't even 24-0 with the race XD

[ThaHax1337 0]

No Remember The Name?

[WishDealer 1]

Good job putting the effort into making a tier list!

[Mr.Thaco-Olmon 44]

15 hours ago, ThaHax1337 said:

No Remember The Name?

You have to Remember the Name

[The Impenetrable Wall 31]

2 hours ago, Mr.Thaco-Olmon said:

You have to Remember the Name

I am the best remember the name player... their for you shall remember my name 

[zebra 178]

Make Dragon Knight's ult not affect ult immune people. ez balance