How can we make being an 'Innocent' less boring?

[Reaper0470 1123]

Adding mini games to the TTT server takes away the point of TTT. Instead of figuring out who the traitors are and following them non stop with a group of people till they do something people would be ignoring the point of the game mode to play games that are already on another server. Adding that stuff will end the TTT server because it will most likely distract the traitors as well which means you'll be adding even more stricter rules to compensate.

Have you played gmod TTT? No one complains about their not being a lot of "extra" stuff to do as innocent. If you can't find something to occupy your wait for traitors during a round get tips from other innocents. I see people doing decoy roulette all the time or just chilling and talking with the server population. If you believe it's to boring then don't come back to the TTT server. We don't need it getting fucked up like TTT custom on GMOD did. 

[Ironic 2277]

7 minutes ago, Reaper0470 said:

Adding mini games to the TTT server takes away the point of TTT. Instead of figuring out who the traitors are and following them non stop with a group of people till they do something people would be ignoring the point of the game mode to play games that are already on another server. Adding that stuff will end the TTT server because it will most likely distract the traitors as well which means you'll be adding even more stricter rules to compensate.

Have you played gmod TTT? No one complains about their not being a lot of "extra" stuff to do as innocent. If you can't find something to occupy your wait for traitors during a round get tips from other innocents. I see people doing decoy roulette all the time or just chilling and talking with the server population. If you believe it's to boring then don't come back to the TTT server. We don't need it getting fucked up like TTT custom on GMOD did. 

Exactly. @Travesty I get what you're trying to say, I really do. I'm not trying to be mean and shoot down these ideas, but like Reaper and I said, all it will do is distract everyone from the overall game. Again, if you're really interested in playing all those Mini Games then we have a Mini Games server for that reason. If you can't stand being an Innocent for a long time, then just don't play TTT. Plain and simple.

[Matty 889]

I actually used to find being Innocent as the most fun. You have no role, no "responsibilities" and you can really just do whatever you want. It can get boring sure, heck you could go 10 rounds in a row as Innocent but sometimes that is just how TTT is.

 

But... I can say for certain that if you were to have 10 Innocents running around a soccer field(Or any map game), not paying attention to anything going on in the actual game, that would harm the server. 

 

I know I wouldn't find being Traitor fun anymore because I would know that all the Inno's would just crowd around the specific game on the map. "Oh its blahblah map, all the inno's will be at soccer. Lets run at them with a Jihad for the 10th time."

[Faded 266]

Just to remind people back on old TTT server we'd have issues with people suiciding as an inno when an admin would do special days like infinite prop jumps. Honestly adding games is going to be just as bad in my opinion. Some people might only 'play' while they are waiting for the traitor to do something, but all that's going to do is cause problems when 1/2 the server dies in a hail of gunfire.

 

Now if you wanted a map that gave ya'll objectives to complete to unlock fun little extra weapons, people from TTT should remember the light sabers from casino, which can be unlocked by killing Terrorists that would be cool. And it's not like there aren't TTT maps that don't have things like climb potions, the old aztec map, but they were usually part of traitor traps and that was the only way to escape/save whoever was trapped in the spike room. In other words if we had maps/mappers that had those kind of 'minigames' but as useful things that helped find the traitor or save innocents lives then I could see it working, instead of it being something to occupy bored people.

Edited April 12, 2016 by Sportsteen583

[trav 6834]

Alright, adding map games out.

 

Any other possibilities? What about rewarding innocents for killing 4 traitors in one map. Something like, allowing them to have an awp or something like a detective next time they're innocent. Or having a special Traitor Killer shop with new items that might be helpful to weed out traitors or kill them faster. What about buying a traitor radar if you've killed 4 traitors in one map? It would ping the current location of one traitor.. nothing more, nothing less.

 

Also can Teds suggestion be taken seriously?

Edited April 12, 2016 by Travesty

[Faded 266]

I think rewarding Inno's would be cool if we could get something like that implimented. Not sure if a persistent store could be used to 'build' credits over the map so they could buy things over time if they only kill 2 terrorist a few rounds instead of having to get 4.

Edited April 12, 2016 by Sportsteen583

[Ironic 2277]

29 minutes ago, Sportsteen583 said:

I think rewarding Inno's would be cool if we could get something like that implimented. Not sure if a persistent store could be used to 'build' credits over the map so they could buy things over time if they only kill 2 terrorist a few rounds instead of having to get 4.

I've never seen this done before, but you could maybe also have an Innocent store? Like how you have for Traitors and Detectives, but only for Innocents. Every Innocent could start out with 0 credits and once they kill let's say maybe 2 T's, then they receive a credit and can use that to buy a fancy gun or something. Then as they kill more T's they get more credits and so on and so forth.

[Matty 889]

When you are innocent and you kill a traitor, you get the original GMOD Dildo launcher. The server would never get boring with that bad boy implemented. 

 

 

[Jeff The Flying Shark 1827]

58 minutes ago, Travesty said:

Alright, adding map games out.

 

Any other possibilities? What about rewarding innocents for killing 4 traitors in one map. Something like, allowing them to have an awp or something like a detective next time they're innocent. Or having a special Traitor Killer shop with new items that might be helpful to weed out traitors or kill them faster. What about buying a traitor radar if you've killed 4 traitors in one map? It would ping the current location of one traitor.. nothing more, nothing less.

 

Also can Teds suggestion be taken seriously?

 

It sounds like your suggesting a point shop. We had one on the old TTT server for a while, but it didn't really pan out well.

This traitor radar your suggesting reminds me of slayers gaming version of the taser that automatically shows people's roles. Me and Bullet both want to avoid items/weapons that will automatically reveal roles like this. Allowing innocents to gain the awp also takes it away from the detective role.

 

Me personally as an innocent I make the game fun for myself by messing around with people so they would assume I'm a traitor or just messing around with props laying around on the map.

 

As for Ted's suggestion I understand the viewpoint of it, but there are too many drawbacks that would be caused from this.

The classic "You had no proof I was a traitor" line always pops into mind. There are some scenarios where you don't have to play "passive" and it just boils down to common sense. Say you see someone exit a room with a freshly killed unidentified body you already know their a traitor and if they complain oh well then.

 

I'm open for suggestions, but atm I would rather worry about fixing issues with the server.

[skitt 1307]

spectator deathmatch sounds fucking DOPE

[TotesMagoats 979]

8 hours ago, Reaper0470 said:

If you can't find something to occupy your wait for traitors during a round get tips from other innocents. I see people doing decoy roulette all the time or just chilling and talking with the server population. 

DECOY ROULETTE. I am glad I got more people on board with messing around with that. They know the risk and we just have fun with it....people do get mad when you decoy them otherwise though lmao.

Sucks we can't really do it on all maps. Agency is my favorite. ^-^ It's a great opportunity to use a jihad too 

 

Another one we do when there is a smaller population is "C4 roulette" ..... Traitor buys the C4 and gets it set up and the rest have to defuse it. That one can be fun too on occasion.(:

Edited April 12, 2016 by TotesMagoats

[VEGEMITEKILLER 259]

Add puzzles or things so that innos, or traitors can get special abilities like 1.5x speed or extra heatlh. 

[Tristan. 1053]

I think some sort of puzzle or collection game that everyone has to work together to solve to get some interesting awards would be a possible idea. The one map on gmod TTT with the lightsabers was always interesting, although not too challenging to get the lightsabers some people would try to do the objective to get the sabers and then bash eachother with them. And these things dont necessarily have to be weapons, maybe clues to who the traitors are or some other things that can aid in the finding out who the traitors are. Adding onto that mabye some more traitor items would be interesting for gameplay aswell, like traps or poison weapons. It needs to be more than shoot shoot shoot every round and be more diverse because it gets stale after a while. idk im just sayin shit

 

adding to the awards idea, mabye a actual death solver that tells you who killed the body you are looking at and only has 1 use, and this would require most of the map to obtain but i think would add to the dynamic. the persons name could mabye even come back with their name encrypted by some small change like letters displaced by 3 or missing parts

Edited April 12, 2016 by Tristan.

[Sandy 2032]

11 minutes ago, Tristan. said:

I think some sort of puzzle or collection game that everyone has to work together to solve to get some interesting awards would be a possible idea. The one map on gmod TTT with the lightsabers was always interesting, although not too challenging to get the lightsabers some people would try to do the objective to get the sabers and then bash eachother with them. And these things dont necessarily have to be weapons, maybe clues to who the traitors are or some other things that can aid in the finding out who the traitors are. Adding onto that mabye some more traitor items would be interesting for gameplay aswell, like traps or poison weapons. It needs to be more than shoot shoot shoot every round and be more diverse because it gets stale after a while. idk im just sayin shit

 

adding to the awards idea, mabye a actual death solver that tells you who killed the body you are looking at and only has 1 use, and this would require most of the map to obtain but i think would add to the dynamic. the persons name could mabye even come back with their name encrypted by some small change like 3 alphabetical letters before or missing parts

Casino was cash, you could also play cards and die.

 

[Faded 266]

9 minutes ago, Sandy said:

Casino was cash, you could also play cards and die.

 

 

Shit was glitched for the majority of the time. That was also back when we had the jihad/firebomb so you just kill the 10 people who tried playing that broken game.

[XxdragonxX88 117]

On 4/11/2016 at 10:30 AM, Yunki said:

Having a surf TTTGO map could actually be really fun (for those who can surf)

It would get RTV'ed alot or the server would loose alot of people though. 

On 4/11/2016 at 10:58 AM, Reaper0470 said:

On GMOD when you died you entered a ghost death match arena on the same map that would continue until the round ended. I don't believe this can be incorporated into CSGO however if possible would probably be a good addition. Innocents are pretty much deputies to the detective. Your entire purpose is to find out who the traitors are so once the t's start killing your job to find out begins. 

another problem with that would be the lag if people have 120 fps it would be halfished because a second map is added in so rip. 

11 hours ago, Reaper0470 said:

Adding mini games to the TTT server takes away the point of TTT. Instead of figuring out who the traitors are and following them non stop with a group of people till they do something people would be ignoring the point of the game mode to play games that are already on another server. Adding that stuff will end the TTT server because it will most likely distract the traitors as well which means you'll be adding even more stricter rules to compensate.

Have you played gmod TTT? No one complains about their not being a lot of "extra" stuff to do as innocent. If you can't find something to occupy your wait for traitors during a round get tips from other innocents. I see people doing decoy roulette all the time or just chilling and talking with the server population. If you believe it's to boring then don't come back to the TTT server. We don't need it getting fucked up like TTT custom on GMOD did. 

Now while i totaly agree with your arguement i think like a tic tac toe game on the wall would be cool. that would would play with like bullets idk just little SIMPLE games even plugin based ones like rock paper scissors. So that inno's could do like RPS to shoot eachother or something lol. it just sounds interesting. 

[trav 6834]

I think some sort of puzzle or collection game that everyone has to work together to solve to get some interesting awards would be a possible idea. The one map on gmod TTT with the lightsabers was always interesting, although not too challenging to get the lightsabers some people would try to do the objective to get the sabers and then bash eachother with them. And these things dont necessarily have to be weapons, maybe clues to who the traitors are or some other things that can aid in the finding out who the traitors are. Adding onto that mabye some more traitor items would be interesting for gameplay aswell, like traps or poison weapons. It needs to be more than shoot shoot shoot every round and be more diverse because it gets stale after a while. idk im just sayin shit

 

adding to the awards idea, mabye a actual death solver that tells you who killed the body you are looking at and only has 1 use, and this would require most of the map to obtain but i think would add to the dynamic. the persons name could mabye even come back with their name encrypted by some small change like letters displaced by 3 or missing parts

These are pretty sweet ideas.

I wish more maps were like Coop missions and the innocents try and solve it to win the round but there's a traitor among us trying to foil the plan and kill us off as well.

Maybe that's a completely different game though.

I really like your idea and agree that TTT gets stale after a while. Which was the whole point of this thread to revive TTT to make our server a first.

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[bulletford 1134]

1 hour ago, XxdragonxX88 said:

another problem with that would be the lag if people have 120 fps it would be halfished because a second map is added in so rip. 

Not true at all, won't affect FPS any more then a full server does now.

 

 

I'm looking at reducing the chance to get traitor multiple times in a row, this should increase the chance for other players to get traitor.

[Rootbeer 1293]

A handful of maps with objectives to spice up the maplist wouldn't necessarily be needed but I think it's always neat to spice things up. It'll be like playing hangumlow every once in a while when we only play d2, office, nuke, etc on war3. Of course what this means is we're going to need someone to create these new maps.

 

Idea1: Innocent/Detective's objective is to escape, but the electricity for the escape tunnel is down. A main room with a screen is powered by fuel, randomly scattered around the map, that people can pick up and turn in to the screen's computer. Only by powering up the screen will it momentarily reveal a switch or reveal and spawn a breakable object on the map that innocents need to hit to proceed. Randomize the switches, require 3 switches turned on, and baby we got a scavenger hunt to go on. Traitors trait as usual.

 

Idea2: I don't have an idea2.

Edited April 13, 2016 by Rootbeer

[Carl Sagan 2577]

I think replacing most vanilla csgo maps with ttt maps would be a good start. we need to remove some of the smaller maps like dust11night and keep good ones like office. is it possible to change the order that maps are displayed so we dont have all csgo maps first?

 

[Jeff The Flying Shark 1827]

11 hours ago, Carl Sagan said:

I think replacing most vanilla csgo maps with ttt maps would be a good start. we need to remove some of the smaller maps like dust11night and keep good ones like office. is it possible to change the order that maps are displayed so we dont have all csgo maps first?

 

 

It can be done easily, but I need to know which default maps people would rather see gone before I do so.

 

As for the ttt maps the majority of them are badly ported, but people like Jodas have take the time to fix them so they'll work properly on the server

[Dr Pepper 1491]

when im inno i just bait the det and try to keep him alive

[Reaper0470 1123]

31 minutes ago, Dr Pepper said:

when im inno i just bait the det and try to keep him alive

^ this usually or i mess with friends until either they kill me or we tag team a traitor.

[iafunky 711]

On 4/13/2016 at 11:12 PM, Carl Sagan said:

I think replacing most vanilla csgo maps with ttt maps would be a good start. we need to remove some of the smaller maps like dust11night and keep good ones like office. is it possible to change the order that maps are displayed so we dont have all csgo maps first?

 

Dust 2 night is one of my favorite maps please don't remove it. I just like to sit on b site on this map and look at the sky. If you want to get rid of a map get rid of dust2 extended because no one likes that map.

[Dakota 4722]

This was never a problem in gmod

Is it impossible to make that light switch work in clue?